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13-09-2010 03:04
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I agree that Joe would have done anything, and would have made it a point, to join the team if the others would have even thought to leave him behind!
I am also sure that Ken, as the leader, would have totally understood him, and that he wouldn't have opposed to the Condor's last wish! As a soldier, and having the same objective, the Eagle knew for sure what such an important purpose might have meant to Joe, especially when it had been a case of a definitively terminal illness! We can also see this kind of understanding in the reversal of events at the end of the third series, when the Eagle had been the one going through a similar experience. The others had insisted to leave Ken behind only when there had been the possibility of a cure, but, when things had gotten worse, and when there had been no more hope, no one had held him from joining the team for their last mission. I'm also sure that, in Joe's case, even the others would have understood ... they all shared the same purpose, and, at the end, they were all in the same boat!
But, then, as TJ has already said, mission completed, Joe would have died with the unavailability of a cure, and the circumstances wouldn't have made it possible for Dr. Raphael to discover and save him! That would have completely changed the plot, and it would have made it rather difficult for the possibility of Joe's dramatic return in the second series. Unless there could have been some kind of secret communication between Dr. Nambu and Dr. Raphael, or in the event of some kind of miracle, having a new, possible cure popping out, at the very end, out of the blue, with an "all's well that ends well" ending of the first series!! In the case of the second scenario, we would have been left without a cyborg Joe, though!!
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13-09-2010 07:44
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Or, Joe might have been saved. It depends on the nature of the injury or medical condition. (We've covered the unlikelihood of shrapnel, at the very least, of any from the 'puppy episode.')
It was his stubborn determination to go it alone that led him to Cross Karakoram. Without that, if Dr. Nambu had forced him into the hospital -- Oh, shit.
On the other hand, the team might have found out about CK in other ways. In time to save the planet. Perhaps Joe could have been there, even if he was left on the ship because of his injuries. ('C'mon, Ken, one shot with a Bird Missile. Please?')
(And we all know that, IRL, the scriptwriters were wrapping up the series. They had no idea that the higher-ups would order a sequel series -- and a sequel to that.)
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Or, as Jun feared, Ken would have climbed inside the machinery to disrupt it, and it's possible that he could have somehow jammed up the gears himself -maybe with his boomerang- but then probably would have gotten killed when the gears went flying everywhere and an explosion resulted.
You make a good point about Ken at the end of Gatch F, gatchamarie, that he went on the mission to save the Earth in a desperate hour, even though he was basically dying from the hypershoot sickness -I guess it doesn't matter so much when the entire world is at risk of being destroyed! If you succeed, you die anyway, but if you fail, everyone dies. You might as well try...
Not sure if the others would have accepted Joe's condition as terminal, despite what that doctor had told Dr. Nambu, as even Dr. Nambu himself wanted to check into it further and do more tests on Joe. But if Joe had told them about Karakoram Cross, and then later jumped out a window to run off on his own to join them there, I think they might have let him be with them on the team, especially once it became apparent how potentially dire the Black Hole Plan really was.
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13-09-2010 14:55
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gatchamarie
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| quote: | Originally posted by lborgia88
Not sure if the others would have accepted Joe's condition as terminal, despite what that doctor had told Dr. Nambu, as even Dr. Nambu himself wanted to check into it further and do more tests on Joe. |
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You're right, LB ... as long as there's life, there's hope, even when everything might only indicate towards the contrary. Even the very last minute counts!
I'm sure Dr. Nambu, if he ever could have had the opportunity, would have done the impossible for Joe, as he then had to do for Ken, the Condor not being at all less important! The others would have also given him all the support they could have been able to give! The kind of unity the team shared has never shown us otherwise, all through the three series! But, as we also could see at the very end, in Ken's case, and as unfortunate reality could be, the unrepairable is, sometimes, also a very factual, existing truth ... Joe's destiny could well have been already written! At least, the scriptwriters were so kind to make us happy in the second series! There wouldn't have been a Science Ninja Team without our Joe!
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| quote: | | [i]But, then, as TJ has already said, mission completed, Joe would have died with the unavailability of a cure, and the circumstances wouldn't have made it possible for Dr. Raphael to discover and save him! That would have completely changed the plot, and it would have made it rather difficult for the possibility of Joe's dramatic return in the second series. Unless there could have been some kind of secret communication between Dr. Nambu and Dr. Raphael, or in the event of some kind of miracle, having a new, possible cure popping out, at the very end, out of the blue, with an "all's well that ends well" ending of the first series!! In the case of the second scenario, we would have been left without a cyborg Joe, though!! |
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How did Raphael find Joe? Why was Nambu not surprised to see Joe walk out of the desert?
I think Marie's idea of communications between Nambu and Raphael is more likely. Nambu knew he couldn't help Joe but suspected Raphael could and sent him to CK. They could have stayed in touch as Joe healed and Nambu could have told Raphael where he needed Joe to be when push came to shove.
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