Hinotori
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Hinotori
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I'm in a bit of a philosophical mood, and since this is a Gatch board, I'm of course going to bring this thread around to our favorite subject..
So, if we take LB's statement above,
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and apply it in a slightly different context, how does correlate to our favorite birdies (or does it)??
Ok, before everyone here looks at me cross-eyed, hear me out...
The members of the Science Ninja Team were basically taken and put into the position of battle. Since they were trained since they were children, no one really ever asked them if combat was something they wanted to do or not. So we can rationally say that Nambu (or Anderson) knew what he was getting the future members of the team into (theoretically speaking), whereas the ninjas themselves really had no idea or choice in the matter. Using LB's idea above, doesn't that make Nambu the soldier and the team members the horses???
Discuss.....
(ok, now you can  at me!) 
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11-07-2008 23:54
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clouddancer
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| quote: | Originally posted by Hinotori
I'm in a bit of a philosophical mood, and since this is a Gatch board, I'm of course going to bring this thread around to our favorite subject..
So, if we take LB's statement above,
| quote: | | I figure the soldiers, to some degree, knew what they were getting themselves into, but no one asks the horses if they want to get shot up with arrows or bullets. |
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and apply it in a slightly different context, how does correlate to our favorite birdies (or does it)??
Ok, before everyone here looks at me cross-eyed, hear me out...
The members of the Science Ninja Team were basically taken and put into the position of battle. Since they were trained since they were children, no one really ever asked them if combat was something they wanted to do or not. So we can rationally say that Nambu (or Anderson) knew what he was getting the future members of the team into (theoretically speaking), whereas the ninjas themselves really had no idea or choice in the matter. Using LB's idea above, doesn't that make Nambu the soldier and the team members the horses???
Discuss.....
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Interesting thought Hino. I will have to think about this before I comment further. (As I would like to see what others have to say on this matter before I bring up a further extension of this.)
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12-07-2008 00:03
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lborgia88
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Ooh, this opens up all sorts of avenues of speculation. At what point did Nambu actually tell them exactly what he had in mind for them? And did he, at that time, present them with an option to opt out of the team, and go on to do something completely different?
I've always sort of figured that Joe ended up with Nambu when he was eight, after his parents were killed. Ken was probably already around Nambu a lot by then, as his mother was probably sick, and then died when he was eleven. I've generally assumed that Jun and Jinpei came some time after that, followed closely by (if not preceded by) Ryu. (Is there canon for any of this?)
One thing I know, personally, is that children can often be steered by their parents/guardian towards a particular path in life. Children often want to please their parents/guardian, and if something is continually presented to them as the expected/elite/heroic path, they might very well grow up wanting to do just that very thing. Also, children often don't want to be perceived as "letting down the team" where their siblings are concerned, and will stick to the designated path, in spite of misgivings, for fear of letting down the others.
At whatever age he told them he wanted them to be Science Ninjas, I suspect Nambu didn't have too much trouble getting them to go along with this willingly.
Now, this raises ethical issues galore! Does an adult have any business asking their children/wards (or any children), to agree to such a dangerous, life-threatening path? Can a child who is only, say 12-15, properly understand and consent to such a thing? What would Nambu have done if one of them had refused? Kick them out of the house? Say "fine" and let them do something completely different?
Watching Gatch I, I noticed that in the early episodes, Ken was all about the heroism and adventure of what they were doing, but you could see him getting more disillusioned, stressed, and bitter as the episodes went on. To me, it seemed like he was realizing that the very idealized, youthful notions he had about what they were doing were clashing with the nastier and messier reality of a prolonged, near stalemate, war.
What had Nambu told them to expect? Who knows?
Anyway, I'm rambling here, and now I'm going to go eat some dinner!
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12-07-2008 00:52
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