Springie
Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans...
I am a Swan.
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21-10-2007 00:41
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Sosai X
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21-10-2007 05:20
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Springie
Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans...
I am a Swan.
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quote: | Originally posted by Sosai X
quote: | Originally posted by Springie
I mean, give me a break, this isn't the "Ken show" people...it's about the whole team! Springie breaks into the Ken sketch song...Ken, Ken,Ken marvelous Ken, wonderful Ken... |
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A point of order m'lord... Gatchaman refers to both the team *and* Ken. i.e. Eagle Ken is G-1, Gatchaman. The whole team is also known as Gatchaman. Confusing aint it. |
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Yeah, I know...the invincible Gatchaman...the white shadow...and team Gatchaman...grrrr...marvelous Ken, wonderful Ken...
To me, the shows can revolve around one of the team...but I want them to show the other members, too...and I want to see how they react to the situation...
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21-10-2007 11:19
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clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
I am an Owl.
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quote: | Originally posted by kimiko
quote: | Originally posted by Springie
quote: | Originally posted by Transmute Jun
You mean you don't have the ADV sets, Kimi? You must run, run, and buy them!!!! |
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Oh yes, Kimi, the ADV set is awesome. I highly recommend it!!! |
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Oh yes I've been looking online, pricing stuff and I must say that my salary for the next year or so has been spent already! Amazon.ca will be the death of my savings account!
Does anyone have any recommandations for buying online? I am a newbie when it comes to shopping online and don't have credit cards (this is a good thing!) |
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If you do not want to buy online, you could do what I did. I purchased most of the DVD's through HMV, Bestbuy or Future Shop. For the last few DVD's I realized they were slightly cheaper online and purchased from Amazon.ca, but then I have a credit card.
I know this does not help you with your problem, but it is a possible solution. I am sure those stores could get copies from other locations if they do not have copies in stock.
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21-10-2007 13:33
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Hinotori
Babbling Loonie
I am an Eagle.
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21-10-2007 13:39
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tatsunokofan
Gatch Guru
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quote: | A point of order m'lord... Gatchaman refers to both the team *and* Ken. i.e. Eagle Ken is G-1, Gatchaman. The whole team is also known as Gatchaman. Confusing aint it |
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Well... If you want to get technical, the name of the team is "Science Ninja Team," and "Gatchaman" refers solely to Ken, not to the team as a whole. Yes, there are times in the series when the Science Ninja Team is referred to as Gatchaman, but in the strictest sense, this is an error, blanketing a group of people with the name of an individual.
Not a big deal, by any stretch, but one I figured was worth pointing out.
James
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21-10-2007 18:16
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Sosai X
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quote: | Originally posted by tatsunokofan
Well... If you want to get technical, the name of the team is "Science Ninja Team," and "Gatchaman" refers solely to Ken, not to the team as a whole. Yes, there are times in the series when the Science Ninja Team is referred to as Gatchaman, but in the strictest sense, this is an error, blanketing a group of people with the name of an individual.
Not a big deal, by any stretch, but one I figured was worth pointing out.
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I'm not sure if I would call the use of the term Gatchaman towards an individual and a group an "error" per se. Maybe by English language rules but it does fit in with Japanese language rules (as I understand them so far)... many Japanese nouns don't have singular or plural forms (obviously there are a few exceptions). One word is used for both with the meaning being determined by its context.
You are right that we're splitting hairs here and it isn't a big deal. I'm turning my pedantic mode off now.
To avoid confusion, I usually call the team 'Gatchaman' and Ken 'baka'. (just kidding) *grin*
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21-10-2007 20:39
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tatsunokofan
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quote: | ...many Japanese nouns don't have singular or plural forms (obviously there are a few exceptions). One word is used for both with the meaning being determined by its context. |
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That can be true with some nouns, but in the case of a proper name, it can be a bit different. In this instance, the difference between a singular person and a group of people is generally determined by the addition of the suffix "tachi" to the name. Literally, the suffix means "and others," implying that there are more people beyond the named person. In the case of Ken showing up with other members of the Science Ninja Team, they could be referenced as "Ken-tachi" or "Gatchaman-tachi," meaning "Ken and the others" or "Gatchaman and the rest," or something similar. In this usage, "Gatchaman" would be one person (I.E. Ken), while "tachi" would be all those with him. If you listen to the Narrator, you will often hear him make reference to "Gatchaman-tachi" when talking about the Ninja Team.
If you are referring to the Science Ninja Team by themselves, you would not use "Kagaku Ninja Tai-tachi," because "Tai" (Literally: Team/Corps) implies a group, of which they are all members, so no "tachi" is needed. If you are referring to the Science Ninja Team and some additional people (The guest star of the week, for example), then you could refer to the entire group as "Kagaku Ninja Tai-tachi" to say that you have the "Science Ninja Team and others."
Nambu tends to use a more formal designation when addressing the Ninja Team, referring to them as "Kagaku Ninja Tai no Shokun," literally "Ladies and Gentlemen of the Science Ninja Team."
Anyway, regarding whether or not "Gatchaman" is the name given just to ken or to the entire Science Ninja Team, I'll reference the series Planning Establishment Notes, essentially the series bible. In the segment titled "'Science Ninja Team Gatchaman' Production Points To Consider", they state:
"2. Regarding Gatchaman
Of all the members of the Science Ninja Team, the name Gatchaman is given only to the hero, Ken, the Eagle. It is through Ken that this Superman-style hero story is brought together (Both Ken and the God Phoenix)."
By that, it's obvious to me that they intended for Ken, and only Ken, to be called "Gatchaman." That it slipped over to being used for the rest of the Science Ninja Team every once in a while is simply an error.
Okay, more than you really cared to know.
James
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22-10-2007 00:53
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