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Japanese, Anyone?

Just curious...I'm writing a Gatch fic and I wanted to throw a little bit of Japanese in...what would be a word a mother would say to a small child (you know, like, honey, darling sweetie...etc.) I've seen "Koishi" before...but is that more boyfriend/girlfriend, or husband/ wife type of endearment?

I'm all ears... Bigears

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11-07-2006 20:55

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From what I've been taught, however, parents and older siblings say their given name plus -chan.

Honey = hachimitsu in Japanese, but they also use hanii, which is just their pronunciation of the English word.

Koishi is a term of endearment used like "beloved" in English (romantic love) Koishi is a noun.

Itoshii hito means loved one. Itoshii is an adverb meaning beloved, hito means one (person, in this case). I'm not sure on the complete use of it (i.e., whether a person using it is referring to their or another person's loved one.)

Darling has a loan-word version in Japanese, but it is used primarily, again, for a romantic interest

Daughter = musume

Son = musuko

Anyways, that's just a general idea. If I run into her, I'll ask one of the ladies who taught Japanese. She's living in the same apartment complex as me while she's doing her master's here in the states (she's from Tokyo). I'll see what else I can come up with if I bump into her.

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12-07-2006 04:13

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That is awesome! Thanks so much... that's just what I needed! You've been sooo helpful! Animeclap Animerose

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12-07-2006 14:08

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Heh. No problem. Sorry that the English in that is kind of bad. I shouldn't edit posts late at night. (The first sentence was originally the last.) ^_^

Good luck!

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12-07-2006 14:19

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Hey Springie! Smile

Here are some sites that you might useful as well...

Common Japanese Phrases:
http://www.jref.com/language/japanese_common_phrases.shtml

Japanese Name Titles (ie -chan, -kun, etc):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_titles

Japanese Kinship Names:
http://www.sf.airnet.ne.jp/~ts/japanese/family.html

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09-10-2007 21:44

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Thanks, Sosai! breakdance

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09-10-2007 22:34

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quote:

Originally posted by Springie
Thanks, Sosai! breakdance

arigatou gozaimashita!

What's a brief Japanese Language list without the swear words/rude phrases... *grin*

http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/duoand17...x/japanese.html

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10-10-2007 02:18

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quote:

Originally posted by Elvin Ruler
From what I've been taught, however, parents and older siblings say their given name plus -chan.

Honey = hachimitsu in Japanese, but they also use hanii, which is just their pronunciation of the English word.

Koishi is a term of endearment used like "beloved" in English (romantic love) Koishi is a noun.

Itoshii hito means loved one. Itoshii is an adverb meaning beloved, hito means one (person, in this case). I'm not sure on the complete use of it (i.e., whether a person using it is referring to their or another person's loved one.)

Darling has a loan-word version in Japanese, but it is used primarily, again, for a romantic interest

Daughter = musume

Son = musuko

Anyways, that's just a general idea. If I run into her, I'll ask one of the ladies who taught Japanese. She's living in the same apartment complex as me while she's doing her master's here in the states (she's from Tokyo). I'll see what else I can come up with if I bump into her.

I'm saving these for just in case I ever need them! great idea to get some words Springie!

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10-10-2007 09:55

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re:Using -chan...

-chan is only used between people who are very close to each other (ie family members or couples) but not when referring to each other to a third party. Usually -chan is only used for women but there are exceptions when it comes to family members. For example, a brother and sister may use -chan for each other. Often they shorten their name and add -chan to it but not always (ie Sotaro (boy's name) becomes So-chan).

BTW, koishi (noun) means small stone/rock. koishii (adjective/adverb) means miss/long for/beloved. Don't forget that extra 'i' at the end.

Also when referring to someone's son or daughter (not your own) you would say musuko-san or musume-san respectively. -san is used with a person's name or with a professional title. ie haikanko-san (mr plumber). -using -san is a sign of respect.

itoshii hito literally means lovely person. I'm guessing that it would be only used for someone the speakers knows well because the Japanese don't usually express such emotions openly to strangers.

A great and fun website for learning some Japanese language tips is 'Genki Japan':

http://www.genkienglish.net/genkijapan/menu.htm

genki means energy/vigor/lively/high-spirits. It is used to ask someone how they are:

ogenki desu ka? (How are you?)

genki desu. (I'm fine)

matane (talk to you later)

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10-10-2007 17:48

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I have another link for you... It's a phrase book mostly for travelers and students, but I've found it helpful.

http://www.japaneselifestyle.com.au/japanese_language/japanese_phrase_book.php

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11-10-2007 00:55

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Thanks so much, Hinotori!

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11-10-2007 01:01

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That's a very cool page, Hinotori. The phonetic pronunciation is especially a nice touch. I'm always on the look out for pages like this that can help me in my studies. arigatou gozaimasu.

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11-10-2007 01:30

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I have been busy copying and pasting all this great information...I have a part in my current story that it will be very useful for! Thank Springie for asking about this and thank you thank you Sosai for giving us sooo much!

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Oooh.... Ebony.... what do you have planned for Lightening????? Big Grin

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[quote]Originally posted by Sosai X
That's a very cool page, Hinotori. The phonetic pronunciation is especially a nice touch. I'm always on the look out for pages like this that can help me in my studies. arigatou gozaimasu.[quote]

Do itashi mashite!

This is a very cool thread. Not only am I interested in Japanese because of Gatch, but also because I sometimes correspond with a Japanese publisher where I work. I feel guilty that my contacts always have to write to me in English, so I've been trying to add some Japanese words and phrases to them in my e-mails (so far the bravest I've been is Konnichiwa and arigato).

If anyone has any other cool links, please send them!

Tori

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11-10-2007 14:53

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Remember, when using 'arigatou', make sure you add 'gozaimasu' to the end of it or else you might appear rude. If you're thanking someone a lot, you can also use 'arigatou gozaimashita' (that is the past tense version).

As for more links... what about these? *grin*

Japan Guide (Very Recommended!):
http://www.japan-guide.com/
Make sure you check out their forums (lots of interesting questions and info) and they have a classifieds section where people advertise for 'penparu' (panpals). That's how I met my penpals and now a couple of my penpals are good friends.

From the above site - Japanese Etiquette:
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e622.html

Learn Japanese (at Sugoi Japan):
http://japansugoi.com/wordpress/learn-japanese/2/

Japanese Surnames:
http://www.gaminggeeks.org/Resources/...urnames.htm

Japanese Verbs:
http://www.timwerx.net/language/jpver...tm#contents

The Yokai (Japanese Spirits):
http://www.youkaimura.org/youkainame.htm
http://www.obakemono.com/

I guess that's good for now. Wink

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11-10-2007 15:44

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Uh oh! I knew I was going to do it wrong!! How bad is it to say arigatou by itself?? Scared

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11-10-2007 22:45

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I just took a quick look at the sites you posted, Tim. They're great!! I could (and probably will) definitely spend hours on them! I think I'm going to have to favorite this thread! Teacher

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11-10-2007 22:58

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quote:

Originally posted by Hinotori
Uh oh! I knew I was going to do it wrong!! How bad is it to say arigatou by itself?? Scared

Heh, it isn't bad just very casual. That's the way you would say it among friends. I wouldn't worry about it because as a foreigner (gaijin) you can get away with a lot more than a Japanese native could. They don't expect us to know these things.

The Japanese language has various levels of politeness built into it. For instance, when you say "Good Morning"...

To friends you might just say, "Ohayou".

To a teacher, your boss or a business contact (someone of a 'higher' standing) you would say, "Ohayou gozaimasu".

You don't use gozaimasu with konnichiwa or konbanwa.

Here's a new phrase I've learnt recently...

Jaa, ashita ne! (See you tomorrow!)

Jyaane! (Talk to you later)

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11-10-2007 23:29

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Here's something funny I saw...

Animevalentine

The writing in this smilie is saying, "boku no kimochi. Peta, peta."

It is saying "My Feelings" and then making the sound of a heart going flutter, flutter. What's funny is... it says "boku" which is the male version of "I". Women don't use the term boku (okay maybe some lesbians do but it isn't common ;p). Women use the term "atashi" or the ultra-polite version, "atakushi". Watashi and watakushi can be used by men and women.

Animeclap Animelol

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