Gatchaman Crowds

To begin this thread, I am very fond of Japanese anime which I follow every season, picking a couple of series to watch every week once the fandom-made subtitles are out. This way I have a fairly good view of how the animation is evolving, what kind of new ideas are directors coming up with and which animation studios are the most capable ones. That's why, when I spotted the news about the Gatchaman Crowds anime slated for summer season, I thought the heavens might have finally smiled on our fandom. I went through the staff - Kenji Nakamura is the director - great. I've seen some shows he took part in and they are good. I have also watched Yozakura Quartet and C] - The Money of Soul and Possibility Control , Tatsunoko series from 2010&2011, and the animation was top notch.

Then I've read the actual summary.

Now, I consider myself a rather mild-mannered person. I don't swear (unless I've been killed in the middle of some boss-battle), I don't pick fights.

I've read the summary once more, and OH GOD, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WITH "GATCHAMAN"- WARRIORS, WHO FIGHT IN SPECIAL REINFORCED SUITS, POWERED BY "NOTE", MANIFESTATION OF SPECIAL SPIRITUAL POWERS IN LIVING BEINGS!?! AND THEY ARE TASKED TO FIGHT A MYSTERIOUS ALIEN ENTITY KNOWN AS "MESS"??! YES, MESS IS A GOOD WORD ALRIGHT! GOOD! GOD!

But really. I haven't seen the original Casshern series, but I gather it's at least somewhat similar to the original. It's not a spit in the face of the long-suffering, neglected fans. Tatsunoko, I am disappointed. And yet, I'll watch every single episode of this egregious farce of yours, hoping I'll find at least a trace of the magic from fifteen-ish years ago, when I saw Gatchaman for the first time. And every time I'll see the title of this anime, it will be like a slap in the face.

Why, Tatsunoko. Why.

(ah well, at least there's the movie [in which I shall most likely find out that Katse is played by a short Japanese person wearing a very obvious blond wig and a hot pink lipstick]. And the Ohayo Ninja-tai Gatchaman shorts - there is something inherently funny about seeing the GodPhoenix being towed away because of poor choice of a parking spot)

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Those brave enough to watch will have to tell me if it's worth it. I read the summary and was just too disappointed to want to give the show even one look. (I can't say I'm mild mannered, though, I'm easily annoyed.

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Congrats on finishing, Victoria! I'm excited to hear that you are grabbing the water colors again- hoping for more pics from you!

I'm disappointed by this new show, too...why even call it Gatchaman? It's definitely not Gatchaman to me...but you never know. Maybe it will spark new interest in the franchise- I REALLY want to see something new done here in the west!

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I agree with Tengu that "Casshern Sins" isn't exactly the Casshern we knew, but it worked because IMHO the core principles have been kept, even though the story differed from the original in what I thought was a very functional way! On reading about the summary of Gatchaman Crowds, I'm not sure whether I can catch a glimpse of any core principle, here! We'll see!

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I too was disappointed to realize that this new "Gatchaman" series has almost nothing from the original in it beyond "warriors who fight in special reinforced suits." I would love to see our familiar, beloved Ninjas again, whether in a prequel or a "hey, they survived the end of Gatch F!" sequel (or maybe even another "OAV" treatment -except one where they look and act like their canon selves...)

But I'm prepared to give any new series a chance, I suppose. If I recall, there was a lot of skepticism back in the late '80s when word came out that there was going to be a new Star Trek series, set ahead in time and with an all-new Enterprise crew. I certainly can't deny enjoying "Star Trek; the Next Generation" even as the original series holds special place in my heart.

This isn't a reboot. A reboot contains far more of the original than this will (at least from the summary). This is a spin-off.

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I recall this being speculated about once -what if a Gatchaman movie changed the gender of one or more characters? With the relative scarcity of canon female characters, it seemed almost plausible that one them would be "Starbucked."

I'd be really torn, if Jason were made female in a BOTP reboot! I really liked female Starbuck on the new BSG, but then, I had only dim memories of the original male Starbuck and hadn't been all that especially attached to the character.

I'd be appalled at Jason being so utterly changed, but I know myself well enough to say that I wouldn't be able to resist watching a rebooted BOTP out of curiosity, even with that, and that if it were done as a well-written, serious, complex, live-action action/romance/drama where people really hit each other, yell and swear -and kiss, etc.- really get killed and each episode feeds into a big season-long, and also series-long story, then I'd could maybe learn to enjoy it anyway.

Heh, making Starbuck female certainly changed up and complicated the Apollo/Starbuck dynamic on the reboot. A female Jason would sure give Princess some competition where Mark is concerned!