SJ
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Well I dunno, Lyon. Self-preservation and all that. If Ken attacked her, she'd certainly fight him....Of course that's AFTER she wibbled, sobbed, begged and pleaded for him to stop.
And then...
She'd call in Joey, her reinforcement, who would delight in the opportunity to kick a little Eagle butt! Call him the Pinch hitter...up to bat for the wee Swan.
Seriously tho. IF they were to tussle...Ken has the physical strength, but Jun has the agility and the more strategic mind.
It might just be an even match.
now...as me...the little Black swan. WELL! He can make alllllll the speaches he wants. IF he takes on the red and black little Aussie - He'd go DOWN, baby!
The words "White Shadow" wouldn't leave his mouth before I'd kick ass with a serious amount of napalm.
That's Ken's problem. He has to make speaches before he strikes...Jun just does it!
I REFUSE TO CONCEDE that a Swan could lose to an Eagle. No no no no no... *sticks fingers in ears and sings "Mary had a little duck" to drown out the sounds of other, more Pro-Eagle arguments*
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| quote: | Originally posted by SJ
Seriously tho. IF they were to tussle...Ken has the physical strength, but Jun has the agility and the more strategic mind. |
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* cough *
Ken is Gatchaman. he leads the team for a reason, and if he doesn't have the most tactical mindset of all of them then they're in serious trouble.
don't get me wrong, Jun's damn good at what she does but if we're talking a fight....
Ken has both physical strength and agility so Jun just doesn't have an edge that way. And of all of them, he's the one with the calculating, ruthless streak - if it needs to get done, it gets done. Jigokillers. Cross Karakoram. Ken can and will sacrifice a team member, a brother or sister in order to win the war, its part of who he was raised to be.
the same can't really be said in reverse as the rest of the team is there to support Ken. He's the apex of their pyramid.
A serious fight would only really happen in an AU situation, and considering similar (or possibly even identical) training there is no way Jun with her lighter mass could take Ken on. Guys are stronger and faster for a reason, and it has to do with a million years of evolution. She'll hold her own for a little, but yeah, she'll go down.
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13-05-2004 04:47
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mei
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| quote: | Originally posted by SJ
...Self-preservation and all that. If Ken attacked her, she'd certainly fight him....Of course that's AFTER she wibbled, sobbed, begged and pleaded for him to stop.
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It depends on where the attack takes place, I'd say. If it's in Jun's room, IN HER BED, she'd "wibble, sob, beg and plead" for MORE. 
If it's not the case above, then I am with Lyon. Ken wins, no matter how hard Jun'd try. However, if Ken is drugged or brainwashed by Katse (that's one the few possible reasons I can think of why Ken'd attack Jun), then there might be a chance that our smart girl would be able to bring her commander down, since Ken wouldn't be totally himself in that cricumstance.
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13-05-2004 05:28
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Drive
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Yup. Ken would kick Jun's ass no problems. It's simple logic really.
That's all I hafta say.
Actually, in the past (aw, c'mon, you didn't *really* believe that was *all* I'd have to say, now did you?) I've been fascinated by the notion that Jun would make just as capable, if not brilliant tactical leader as Ken.
I road-tested a smidgen of an idea in our old IF and I think she'd be darn good.
Yes, Ken has proved that he is ruthless when it counts, but that's not to say that Jun is incapable of being ruthless, she was just never given the opportunity, what with being busy filling out her 'mother' role and all.
I think if she was pushed and re-roled, she'd surprise us. Look at how much she rocked in the episode after Ken's father dies and Ken is bitching and moaning about it [bad Ken!] gets them into trouble as a result and she gives him THE dressing down of his life.
Priceless stuff that.
I'm tired now. Haven't had to use my brain for a while and it's taken all the stamina out of me...Zzzzzzzz
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