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From what I know Gatchaman (battle of the planets, g-force) and Golion (lion voltron, lionbot) are quite the same. . . except for a couple of differences

I had paired the Gatchaman heroes with their Golion counterparts, and you tell me how each pair is different:

Ken. . . . . Kogane Akira
Joe. . . . .Kurogane Isamu
Jun. . . . . . . . .Farla Hime
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Jinpei. .Suzuish Hiroshi (Chibi)

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Hey, Billy...I'm not familiar with the Japanese names of Go Lion (Voltron, right?) Can you post those?

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From what all I remember of Voltron, they are quite simular. They even had the "other" male, Don in BOTP and Sven in Voltron. I could go on but it would take a long time.... Any particulars are you looking for?

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From what all I remember of Voltron, they are quite simular. They even had the "other" male, Don in BOTP and Sven in Voltron. I could go on but it would take a long time.... Any particulars are you looking for?
In Golion, Sven was 2 characters. (both brothers)
the Sven from the final episodes of Goilon was the younger called Sho, but I can't seem to remember the nem of the elder who commanded the blu lion before Farla. . . .until his death.

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Interesting... makes me kinda want to find out more on it. Is the golion series kinda the same as Gatchaman is to BOTP. As far as the violence taken out etc..?

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Interesting... makes me kinda want to find out more on it. Is the golion series kinda the same as Gatchaman is to BOTP. As far as the violence taken out etc..?


Go Lion didn't need to be as heavily edited as Gatchaman was. Beyond the first episode, the show was nowhere near as violent. The first episode was very violent and very bloody. Not quite to Fist of the North Star levels, but certainly heading in that direction. I remember being quite surprised by it at the time. Anyway, from the second episode onward, it became more or less like the typical giant robot series of the time, filled with lots of mecha action but very little graphic violence.

The edit for Voltron also benefitted from looser standards for what was allowed on kids TV than were in place when BotP was being produced.

It probably also didn't hurt that Jameson Brewer had cut his teeth on BotP a few years earlier. Wink2

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the Sven from the final episodes of Goilon was the younger called Sho, but I can't seem to remember the nem of the elder who commanded the blu lion before Farla. . . .until his death.


The name of the original Blue Lion pilot was Takashi Shirogane.

I hope this helps!

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Thanks James for the update and info. on it.

I do have one question, is Golion in a translated form or do we have to watch it in Japaneese?

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I do have one question, is Golion in a translated form or do we have to watch it in Japanese?


Mediablasters is currently releasing the Voltron version of the series, but once they are done with that, they are supposed to release a subtitled version of the uncut Japanese series. I haven't seen a timetable for this, but I would guess the first volume would be released sometime over the summer.

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Thanks again. You really are quite a knowledgeable person on a lot of this stuff.

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I think Gatchaman is closely related with the Voltes Team of Chodenji Mashin Voltes V than Golion/Voltron since both shows were made during the 70's and both teams uses Ninjitsu battle techniques, However, Voltron was clearly a Voltes V rip-off and I don't think the Voltron Force, outside the comfort of their Lions, can par against the mighty strength of the Gatchaman team...Can anyone imagine Princess Allura winning against G-3 Jun Shiratori?
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Hi all!

Of course, "Voltes V" is nothing more than a retred of "Combattler V," the show that it replaced on TV Asahi's line-up.

If you want to see a non-robot series that owes its genesis to "Gatchaman," try "Ultra Super Car Gattiger," a racing series from 1977. That series has a five man race team (The hero, the tough guy, the girl, the kid, and the fat guy), characters whose names are Ken and Joe, a villain organization that dresses in green and attacks with new mecha every week, a villain leader who dresses in purple and has blond hair, and the lead character even has a missing parent who appears in disguise to offer assistance. In a way, "Gattiger" even predicted "Gatchaman Fighter," by having the five vehicles driven by the heroes unite into one super powerful vehicle.

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The first volume of Golion comes out on May 27. Then the first volume of Vehicle Voltron, sometime in june or july,then another Golion.

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Is GoLion still scheduled for release on May 27?? I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm sooo looking forward to it's release. I was a Voltron fan back in the day (because it reminded me so much of BoTP), but now that I'm older, wiser, and more aware of the butchering so many anime series receive to Americanize it, I really want to see GoLion and hear the story as it was meant to be!

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I'm interested in Go Lion, too...I remember seeing Voltron and thinking...you've got to be kidding...is this a G Force rip off? But I watched it anyway, because I missed my G Force so much...

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Here you go - Gatchaman to GoLion to Voltron

Ken. . . . . Kogane Akira Keith = Black Lion
Joe. . . . .Kurogane Isamu Lance - Red Lion
Jun. . . . . . . . .Farla Hime Princess Allura - Blue Lion (after Swen)
Ryu. . . . . .Seidou Tsuyoshi Hunk - Yellow Lion
Jinpei. .Suzuish Hiroshi (Chibi) Pidge - Green Lion

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I've seen a screenshot comparison of the characters in Voltron vs. BOTP/Gatch somewhere...but I can't remember where...

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Hmmm, I've never seen Go Lion or Voltron, but now I'm curious. I'm aware that Gatchaman is credited with starting the sentai, team-of-five trend, but it would be interesting to see how this was carried into other shows.

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Here's some background info on Voltron, from the Voltron Universe site. Just a warning... Reading this will bring back memories of when you first started looking at Gatch sites!!! Big Grin

Voltron 101

BTW, while I was at this site, I checked out their news section... And it seems (are you sitting??) that a Voltron feature film is also in the works! Right now they're listing a release date of 2010... Here we go again with being inundated with anime-based big-screen films (can we say audience burn out???)

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Interesting link!

"Well, that's the story if you've only seen the Americanized Voltron: Defender of the Universe. Things went a little differently in Golion, the Japanese original. In Japan, the Sven character's name was Takashi Shirogane, and he wasn't just injured in that early episode. He was killed. That's right, dead as a doornail. It's his younger brother Sho who's in the final episodes."

Yikes, this does remind me of when I first discovered Gatchaman sites and learned of "Jason's" real fate.

And, now that I think about it, I'm sure I read somewhere that the Tatsunoko people originally planned, in Gatch II, to keep Joe dead and instead introduce his younger brother...

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I was a Voltron fan back in the day (because it reminded me so much of BoTP), but now that I'm older, wiser, and more aware of the butchering so many anime series receive to Americanize it, I really want to see GoLion and hear the story as it was meant to be!


Well, story-wise it won't be all that different once you get past the first few episodes. The first episode was very violent, but it tamed down quickly, thereby requiring far less editing. And, of course, Sven doesn't survive in the original. Not to mention that Earth has been destroyed as the series opens. Still, once you get settled into the typical monster-of-the-week stories, "Voltron" was actually fairly faithful to "Go Lion."

One other big difference you'll notice is that the series sounds completely different. "Voltron" did not use any of the original "Go Lion" music and sound effects, using new music and sound effects that were created in America. It's a matter of opinion, but I preferred the Japanese M&E over the American one. Of course, I feel the same way about the new music and effects used for "Eagle Riders" too...

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And, now that I think about it, I'm sure I read somewhere that the Tatsunoko people originally planned, in Gatch II, to keep Joe dead and instead introduce his younger brother...


Not quite. Yes, an earlier Planning Establishment for "Gatchaman 2" (As it was then called) did have Joe's younger brother, Jack, replace him on the Ninja Team, becoming Jack, the Hawk. But Joe was not going to be left dead. Instead, he was to have been taken away by Gallactor, made into a cyborg, and made into one of their operatives, the Space Joker. As the Space Joker, he would have been a major opponent for the Science Ninja Team, showing up at the last second to save the Leader of Gallactor from being captured and generally causing them a lot of headaches. He would have flown around in the Condora and used Black Feather Shuriken as his weapon. Obviously, subtlety was not high on the agenda. Eventually (After all the angst they could get was wrung out of it), during a climactic battle between Jack and the Space Joker, Joe would have broken free from his Gallactor brainwashing, and returned to being Joe once more.

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