.....sorry got excited when I saw Katse

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yay!

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Aw, shucks. I missed such a cool debate. Drat.

Heck, I'll put in some of my opinion (aren't ya'll lucky?), but only about one cents worth as a compromise. ^_^

I pretty much agree with Buffy. You find what you look for. If you are waiting for someone to be rude to you, no matter what they say, you'll probably take it the wrong way. Just happens. I'm a Christian (who also doesn't care for the Left Behind books). I will admit to believing that it's the "true" way, but doesn't everyone believe that about their religion (Or most, rather)? Rather than turn people off by being arrogant or trying to scare people into *saying* they're Christians, I'd rather talk with them about what I believe and listen to what they believe. But that's another tangent. As far as atrocities that are commited? The individuals who do these things and claim to be Christian and expect to get into heaven are going to be *very* surprised in the afterlife.

Oh, btw, Swannie, I apologise for those dudes waking you up. If you live in the country like I do, they can't find you, though. ^_~ As far as classics...I think very few books classified as such deserve that title. But classic *does* mean that it stays around forever. Some have just outstayed their welcome.

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I'd love to hear about that book "Whoo! Sizzling hot!" by Aye Carumba.. Ms Carumba must know her stuff! Sounds like one hell of a novel.


Though titles can be misguiding..



*now back on topic*

And I wish people would stop calling me an atheist...

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Tengu....I agree with you 100%

Religion is about belief and spirituality, not about money.

I also believe -- and this is only my opinion - that Religion becomes wrong when wars are waged in the name of God, or whichever deity they worship.

Religions that have the power to defy the laws of the countries in which they hold their choker chain on, also reeks.

I was raised Anglican - converted to Buddhism on my marriage to a sexy Buddhist lightning bolt - and really, when I consider the fact that the church is run by the monarchs of England, and was created so that a man could divorce his wife rather than beheading her, to me seems a joke.

The bible scites that you should not worship any idol. Sure, no probs, explain the pope to me will you?

Oh...I admire the guy, please don't get me wrong. He has done much, and offers hope to a world of frightened people. But by the laws of that black book - he's a no no.

I truly believe that religion and belief comes from within yourself. Whatever it is you need to hold on to to get you through a crisis is what you should beleive, and noone has the right to tell you you're wrong.

All religions believe in one thing....A higher power. A spirit that guides us all. Be it God, Buddha, allah, Satan, or the world itself, it is the same thing, only with a different name.

So to that stupid woman on Jane and Lawrence who corners me every freaking morning to preach to me about Jehova and how that I should find myself a "real" religion....BITE ME!!

And now....for me to go get myself a coffee.... SJ pre-coffee, as you can tell, is a bad bad thing.

SJ

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Hmmm....*contemplates shooting SJ*


Nah. Too much legal trouble...right now anyway...

The pope (not that he's a bad guy or anything) is one of the reasons I'm not Catholic. He and about, oh, a thousand other "saints" are prayed to (or he will be, when he's dead), and to me that just slightly passes the whole "no idol" thing. There are a *lot* of doctrinal issues that try to figure out more than what's written in the Bible (or sometimes twist one verse in the Bible until it means exactly the opposite of what it was meant to). But I don't believe in doctrines.

Er...I've lost my train of thought. So, I guess I'll post this, and if I ever figure out what it was that I was thinking (Heh, not likely), I'll post it. Sound good?

*looks nervously at other board members*

Aaaah! Here! Look! Sex!

*hopes that distracted them*

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The only religion that has ever appealed to me is Tauism. There is no god....as such.

And the golden "rule" (not that it is) is that everyone must find their own path to enlightenment and the next life.

Buddishts I don't mind so much.

Anyway when will the "major" religions such as christian, muslim and jewish realise they are all different takes on the same thing?

Notice the similarities,

1. They all have a holy book.
2. They all have a male god.
3. They are all based in Jerusalem.

Christianity is that group who belived Jesus was god, Muslims didn't beleive he was god but thought of him as a prophet and the Jews decided they didn't beleive in him at all.

No one though to mention though that Hinduism is perhaps the oldest recorded religion in the world (nearly 6000 years).

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I'm just loving this bouncing back and forth between sex and religion....

Prolly cause deep down all religions were born from someone's really good orgasm....Hmmmmmmmm. I should write a thesis on this....Yeah baby! Oh oh! There's an interesting challenge. Lets all figure out the orgasm link in our own religion!

Me first: Immaculate Conception: POW! Mary must have been hit right between the eyes with that one! Boy am I in an irreverant mood today.

Oh! I was agnostic for several years! Here's my take on that: "Oh Gawd, hit that Booty-Buddha, Great Spirit...Oh! Yes! Muh-huh-huh-mud! Jeez-US...wait! Yah-yah..WAY! That's the WAY! YES YES YES!!! Whoever you are Just. Don't. Stop!" (hehehehee)

Ahem...

(gets a little more composed)

Taoism is a cool religion. Hinduism is too. I didn't mention it because it just didn't jump to mind at the moment I was rattling off assorted religions. As for Christian/Jewish/Muslem? Oh yeah, they are kissing cousins as far as religions go, with Islam and Christianity both being born out of a shift from Judaism basically. It's the rare religion today that isn't an offshoot of another. In all honesty, if certain folks could get past the 'death to all in the name of my faith' mentality (sometimes translated in milder terms to : I am right, you are wrong so let me fix you and/or insult you and/or tell you why most everyone in your faith is an asshole) I'd be groovy. I think everyone else here is in the same boat really.

Oh yeah, and I agree with Tengu totally: Money is the downfall of any religion. Truely the Root of All Evil...That and spiked Koolaid....

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And I, my dear boardwatchers, am a fanatic....MOOHOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

but a fanatic of what, I hear you ask?

Seriously, though. I agree with you, Elvin. Anyone thinking of all groups, religious or not, are all "stupid" based on the actions of a small group of people from that group, is just plain...bigotry (did I use the right word?).

Intolerance?

Intolerance is what truly shits me. The catchcry of the new millenium is "Respect"... (If I hear one more song preaching respect or "where is the love" I'll steal the closest weapon and use it).... It is a shame, however, that this isn't the case.

I was going to expand on that, but won't. I just know I'll offend someone...<snicker>

I better stop procrastinating and get to work...<groan>

SJ

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Some of the worst fanatics are atheists.....

fanatics in cosmicism get shot into space where they can debate the `Great Wall` problem properly.

(or else they write SF)

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