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Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
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My kids watch movies like Star Wars and play games like Warcraft, and frankly I don't think it's making them any more or less aggressive than they otherwise would be. In any case, whenever they show aggressive behaviour, we call them on it immediately and warn them that it's not acceptable. I think what this has essentially done is teach them the difference between fiction and reality, and that while some things happen in movies and games, they aren't repeated IRL.
FWIW, we had much more of an issue with watching Gatch.  After watching the ADVs with me, my 3 and 5 year olds (at the time) began spouting 'damn' and 'hell' every second sentence. I ahd to quickly explain to them that these were 'naughty words' and not things they should be saying. My 5 year old picked it up pretty quickly, but my 3 year old of course took longer. I told him that if he didn't stop saying these things, he couldn't watch Gatchaman anymore. Of course, he slipped and so one day I left him in his bedroom while my daughter and I watched. He could hear the show but not see it and it drove him NUTS. Now the threat of not watching is taken seriously.
So now my kids are almost 7 and almost 5, and they completely understand the concept that there are naughty words, and just because someone else uses them (even if that person IS Condor Joe  ) that doesn't mean they should. It is my belief that they have been able to apply this to violence issues in movies and games as well.
That being said, I don't let my kids watch/play anything gory, or with nudity. The violence is all Gatch/Star Wars style cartoon violence with little to no blood.
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02-11-2007 13:24
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Springie
Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans...
I am a Swan.
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My son is only allowed to play "E" rated games...but my biggest issue with him lately is that he pitches a fit when he is frustrated. So, yesterday, I unplugged the game mid-fit and put the entire system into my closet. He threw a giant tantrum...but later he came to me apologizing and crying. He will get his video games back today, but he can keep them only if he keeps his temper in check. Hopefully, he's learned a lesson from this.
I really think that the whole violence issue depends on each child's temperament. I know my son can't handle seeing violence well, and that he needs to work on controlling his temper, so the video games are a powerful tool, KWIM? Each parent knows their own child, so it's up to each parent to make their own judgment.
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02-11-2007 19:22
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Cep
Board Pirate
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My answer is no.
The rise in violence and violent behavior in the UK at least is down to the costcutting and namby pamby liberalist politics of government.
The reason for the rise in violence, crime and the yob culture all stems from the past and present policies of open prisons, asbo's and basically treating the victims of crime like sh*t whilst letting the criminals get away with it. With teachers being told they cannot punish children or even expell them, that parents are facing the possiblity that smacking their child will become a criminal offence and other non-sensicle rubbish.
This has led to an entire generation of children being brought up without fear of consequences for their actions, mainly because there are none any longer.
Take for example a gang of car thieves I helped arrest, they were stealing peoples car keys after folllowing them into their houses, then driving the cars off and selling them at upwards of £10,000 a car.
You consider that they do this once a month thats £100,000 a year, tax free!
Yet what happened to these theives when arrested?
Well they got two months community service. Bloody good money when you think about it, £100,000 a year tax free and if your caught you work for two months in a nursing home or something. Think I would like to switch to that profession, dont you?
Take again the liberalist nonsense on the human rights issue where a serial rapist, not just a rapist oh no a serial rapist who has comitted several attacks on young girls and women is allowed not only to take part in the national lottery and claim a £7 million jackpot but also enjoys the benefit of £300,000 a year from us jolly taxpayers to pay for his "protection" from the public eye.
With these things as with all others it is a simple case of the "what can we find to blame all these problems on because we dont want to address the real issue".
Take for example the case of a man who kidnapped, raped, tortured, murdered and then mutilated his wifes, sister.
The government response was to blame the bondage and force fantasy materials found on his computer, saying that it was these materials which drove him to this terrible act.
Bollocks.
Any person who is sick enough to not only kidnap and rape but to torture, murder and then mutilate a person has something seriously wrong with them and furthermore someone who could do this to their own wifes sister, their sister in law, is someone who would have comitted this act regardless of any materials they saw on the internet.
If these people in government are seriosly trying to say that people seeing these materials will then go out and act on them are f**king stupid.
So the governments answer was to make it a criminal offence much like child pornography to view such material, but wait?
What about the films like Saw? The hills have eyes? Saw 2, 3 and 4? The motel? Hostel?
Hmm... seems a bit strange that we publicly allow such sick and twisted films which depict snuff, torture, murder and mutilation to be shown in cinemas around the country and yet... we should ban bondage and force fantasy materials that people view in the privacy of their own home?
I fail to see the logic there, except the only logical reason is that unlike films like those above such materials don't make as much revenue for the government watchdogs or the local economy for local government to soak up with stealth taxes.
Another reason for the rise in violence is that now the younger generation are so well protected from the system and society that they often violate they have no concepts of what is truely dangerous.
They think you can stab someone and they will walk away, that you can shoot someone in the arm or leg and they will be fine, they wont die unless you shoot them in the head or chest you see. They think that kicking someone in the head when they are on the floor is not going to do any permanent damage.
They think this because they have never had anyone do it to them and they are not likely too with the rules brought down about our heads telling us that we can't discpline our children, that we should not smack them, or tell them off, that we should talk to them as adults and reason with them.
For gods sake they are chlidren!! They are not adults yet and do not comprehend reason to an adult level!
When your a child and you first put your hand on a lit match because the flame are pretty what happens?
You burn yourself and you learn not to bloody do it again!
Thats how children learn, thats how they know right from wrong, they are taught if you do something bad you will get hurt!
Todays children are not taught this and now they think being yobbish and violent towards people is acceptable because no one has taught them otherwise, and the system, soceity lets them down by not punishing them properly either.
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There, I feel I have ranted. 
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02-11-2007 21:21
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