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Posted by Transmute Jun on 18-01-2008 at 22:10:
LOL.... it's all bias, CD... basically, he's an arrogant bastard who beats up his own son and has no use for the rest of the team. Add to that an Eagle/Swan obsession and you can easily start blaming HIM (and the way he messed up Ken'semotional state/growth) for why Ken and Jun haven't gotten together. It all rolls on from there.... 
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Posted by clouddancer on 18-01-2008 at 22:44:
Okay, I get it.
Not sure you will like him by the end of my Universe then.
Although you may. Taken down by Mark, on many occasions, (Or perhaps I should say 'shown up' by Mark) and perhaps mellowing with age, and the return of his family.
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Posted by Toneman on 19-01-2008 at 00:43:
You know, I think Red Impulse is the most hated on character in the Gatch Universe. Think about it.... People like Katse and Sosai X more than they like Red Impulse.... They Like Geru Sedora more than Red Impulse. Geru is never mentioned on the boards, but anytime Red Impulse is mentioned, it's mostly to hate on him....
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Posted by Hinotori on 19-01-2008 at 01:42:
I don't think I'm an RI hater, per se. Sure I think he was a terrible father, but I always looked at his character as the catalyst for (part of the reason) why Ken is the way he is and why he became the person he became. More an explanation than anything else... Y'know, one of those terrible influences on your life that you carry the scars of for the rest of your days... I think I view Nambu a little more unfavorably than I view RI, which you'll see if I ever finish any of my fics... The man was a horrible father figure and uses relationships as a means to an end... There's no real sense of family with him... A little hard-assed, if you ask me (ok, maybe more than a little). Someone who didn't really want the responsibility of raising 5 kids, but had to in order to have his plans come to fruition. So he views the team more as "objects" he can manipulate rather than kids/young adults he should be properly influencing to understand and be part of life. You'll see in my stories that I view him as someone who "puts up" with the teenagers because he had to, not because he wanted to.
Anyway, I digress. This was an RI bashing thread, wasn't it??? 
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Posted by clouddancer on 19-01-2008 at 02:03:
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Hmmm, interesting. Similar to how I feel about Cronus.
And I use the 'scars' Cronus leaves on Mark to strengthen Mark so that he is eventually able to take on Cronus and knock him down a few rungs. Kind of like the student surpassing the teacher and.
Anderson - Although, in my universe, Mark was raised by Anderson, from the age of 1. Mark never calls him Father or Dad. He is always Chief or Anderson. This is due to the cold relationship Mark had with Anderson. Not full of lies, but Mark is used by Anderson to gain what he wants, a fighting team. At least this is all Anderson shows Mark. Inside he does feel, as you can see in my last fic. And in the one(s) I am writing now.
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Posted by Toneman on 19-01-2008 at 05:41:
That's interesting that you make those remarks of Nanbu Hakase. In my stories I portray him as a man with something to hide. He lies to the team, He is rash with them, and presumes to know how they are going to think and feel. I have a feeling that when DITH wraps up, Good ol' Hakase will get stuck holding the bag. (Not sure yet.... that's a loooooong way off!!)
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Posted by Firebird on 24-01-2008 at 11:24:
Well although I have not visited for a while have been continuing on my fic which I have broken down into little chunks to post.
I posted a warning from the start so people dont get too into it and then feel like they cant go on.
I promise to continue with the begginnings stuff soon and see what else I can post here to get the fic count up.
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Posted by kimiko on 24-01-2008 at 14:45:
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Ditto...I don't care for the character in the least...but at least he served his purpose.
HE BLOW'D UP REAL GOOD!!!
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Posted by Toneman on 24-01-2008 at 14:46:
thats just awlful, kimi
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 24-01-2008 at 23:31:
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Actually, I thought it was rather accurate
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Posted by Firebird on 25-01-2008 at 11:27:
I have tried in my Beginnings fics to portray him as something more. Ive always thought there was more to him than an absentee father. I guess knowing how much the japanese value family i found it hard to equate that there would not be a good reason for the two of them being seperate that was not translated too well to the BOTP series.
Likewise Hakase he may be all business but I have always had the sense of something more beneath.
Of course it could just be that I am just totally loonie
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Posted by clouddancer on 25-01-2008 at 14:31:
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Yes I have a bit of that running through my stories. I have always had a feeling Nambu, or Anderson, does view them as his children. He is unable to express this feeling, of love or concern, or unable to show it.
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Posted by amyltrer on 25-01-2008 at 14:34:
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Eeek. One of the reasons I could never stand Hakase it was his concrete indifference towards the kids. I always had the feeling he was exploiting them.
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Posted by clouddancer on 25-01-2008 at 15:24:
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NO there was something there. I can not point to specific instances at this time Amy, but there where times you could se the concern in his posture or in a phrase he said, maybe after they were out the door. But it was shown.
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Posted by Firebird on 25-01-2008 at 17:00:
Guess I am not the only one.
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Posted by clouddancer on 25-01-2008 at 17:24:
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I was feeling a little like that too FB.
No, you are not the only one.
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Posted by amyltrer on 25-01-2008 at 17:31:
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Maybe. But not in the ERs!
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 25-01-2008 at 17:57:
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No... you just try to see the best in everyone, FB!
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Posted by Toneman on 25-01-2008 at 18:04:
Well, there's no excuse for me....
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Posted by Firebird on 25-01-2008 at 18:55:
So what drew you to him?
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