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Posted by Rory on 28-04-2008 at 21:29:
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Unfortunately, there are critics out there, whom we have dubbed as "Grammar Nazis" who will attack fics for grammar, spelling, sentence structure, etc. MediaMiner, Fanfiction.net and AFF.net have them. I remember one person actually giving me a low rating of 1 for the Grammar in my Samurai 7 fic. But if you read her comments, God, her grammar is a hell of a lot worse than mine. Needless to say, I told her not to insult me and instead concentrate on fixing her own grammar, which is more f**ked up than mine.
You know, I would happily read a story that is riddled with grammar errors but has a FANTASTIC plot, than a well-written one with a mediocre plot.
Posted by Rory on 28-04-2008 at 21:31:
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I agree with everyone. Repost them here.
Posted by Ebonyswanne on 28-04-2008 at 23:04:
Rory I was the same when I started to write ficcies.(Terrified to press the 'post' key.) It took me four days to get up the courage to post my first small ficcie...just 600 words long.
I was only just learning to use 'word' and my grammar and sentence structure skills weren't very good. In fact I think they sucked... (They still need work, but they aren't as bad now.)
The world of writing was so new to me and it still is! I'm still learning to write better and I hope I never stop learning.
I have nothing against slash.( I just don't feel comfortable reading a lot of it.Just not my inclination, I have friends who are into though.) But I do see there are people who like it and it has its place here in the world too. And there are some great writers in that area, they shouldn't be restricted because of what I like.
Rory post your ficcies!!!post, post away...
Besides people who only look at your grammar through a review can come across as snobby...And I can tell straight away they were not reading the story very well. (If they offer help through a private email, thats OK, at least they have some idea of courtesy.)
I don't mind if they say..."There was a plot hole or two", or maybe "it wasn't clear on that part of the story what the character was meant to be doing..."
Even a proof reader can miss things...
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Posted by meridianday on 29-04-2008 at 06:50:
Heh, I remember that nervy posting feeling. On the big list, I used to post under my own name until I decided I wanted to post some fanfic. At that point MeridianDay turned into the name I now use for almost everything ;-) I was so nervy, I tried to write the fic in american english rather than my own dialect, and I really would never have got around to posting it without using an account that couldn't be identified as the real me.
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Mallanox : "My mother was Irish and my father was an alien. I was an only child and I dress funny." Posted by Ebonyswanne on 29-04-2008 at 09:38:
Meridian if you were taught English style than use it I say!!! They did invent the language after all!
My child will learn to spell the Oxford English when she goes to school...
I must have looked at the 'Enter' button like it was the shiny red button...I could have been firing a bird missile and not knowing what it might hit!!! I posted my first ficcie on the 5th May last year...
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Posted by meridianday on 29-04-2008 at 10:15:
I've used English english in every fic after that first one - it was just first-time nerves. Also, there had been a bit of a flame-war beforehand involving other people's fics (the email list at the time was a mod-free zone and there were a lot of flame wars), which made me extra nervous.
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Mallanox : "My mother was Irish and my father was an alien. I was an only child and I dress funny." Posted by Ebonyswanne on 29-04-2008 at 13:09:
I understand... at the time i was posting my first I had a lot of confidence issues...
I had friends in my youth at school say I was stupid...(it hurt...) I wasn't smart like they were...(funny thing is I knew what they were saying behind my back... I figured it out....)Not good friends to have...so I learned in years to come.
BUT!!!! I'm now following my own instincts...and my beliefs.
Flame wars aren't good.... No one has the right to say that a fandom is exclusive to their ideas...and exclude everyone else...
Fic writing is a hobby and it should be made something that a person does to show they love the show...its a great escape from the real world...and those characters inspired them to write...
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Posted by Fairlight on 29-04-2008 at 13:52:
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Well said!
Posted by Ebonyswanne on 30-04-2008 at 04:29:
Fairlight...Thanks... I think I get to opinionated sometimes for my own good...
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Posted by Dr. Sinc [de Alter] on 24-05-2008 at 09:44:
Well, if you want my opinion, here it goes. As for me, I see the "canon" term as a complex of characters' behavior archtypes, their traits and habits, the concept of world and its history, the relationship between the chars - and nothing more. You really shouldn't write fics based only on a canon unverse; it's good to throw the Team to a world or two where there is no Gallactor at all ^_^, stuff like that. The thing is in author's ability to recognize character's persona and model its outcome in certain situations, however far from the canon it will be. In the fics, you can do everything you haven't seen in the originals; but it's up to you to make it feel comfortable, to make the characters themselves, not puppets with familiar faces.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 24-05-2008 at 13:22:
thats a good insight into cannon and its not something many people think about. Have you read many ficcies Dr. sinc???
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Posted by gogirl212 on 08-07-2008 at 04:56:
I don't know if this is a dead thread (but to me it is new since, well, I'm new!), but after reading all of this I have a question and I think this might be a good place to post it (please please correct me if I am wrong!)
If a writer creates an AU that references canon, or even an AU series, does that become "canon" unto itself? If so, does that mean that another writer could write in that AU? Or many other writers? Could it engender its own subset of canon and fics?-- or would that just be bad form all around? Does the AU always remain the original work of the writer and therefore not to be "borrowed" even though the other parts were borrowed from canon?
(geesh . . . I hope this makes sense!)
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 08-07-2008 at 05:26:
Good question Go girl.
Usually an AU is the writers alternation of the Cannon universe. Most do it just so that they can expand on ideas they have.
Cannon is always Cannon, that includes character personalities.
Generally most Fanfic AU's are closed to other writers, unless another writer is given permission to use the fanfic universe.(I suppose you can look at as canon for that universe only, I never really thought about it before you mentioned it.)
BOTP often had AU's since there is so much scope to go into outer space with story lines..
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Posted by Firebird on 08-07-2008 at 07:10:
I love any stories I can read. mine are mostly at best tenuously canon, I struggle sometimes at getting the right depth to them.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 08-07-2008 at 07:14:
FB your stories are wonderful! And they have great depth to them. Darkness is coming along very well.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 08-07-2008 at 13:17:
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I doubt any of us have contacted Tatsunoko and asked it it's okay to write fics in the Gatchaman universe, but a fic writer's own AU would be a much more personal thing, so I wouldn't write in someone else's AU without asking first and getting the okay. I've seen it happen -at the Gatch Archives, Jane Lebak let another writer set a story in her BOTP universe and use one of her OCs. Now, assuming one has received permission to write in someone else's AU, would one then have to stay "canon" to that person's AU? It gets complicated!
I used to read a lot of Harry Potter fanfiction, while the books were still being published, and it was sort of amusing that a lot of writers were trying to stay quite true to canon, but every time a new book came out, it often made them go AU -ie. Sirius Black is your main character, and now he's dead in canon.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 08-07-2008 at 13:20:
ITA, FB, your fics are wonderful, Canon or not!!!!
Generally it's considered poor ettiquette to use someone else's AU without their permission, but given that all fanfic is in a grey legal area to begin with, it CAN be done. 
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Posted by gogirl212 on 08-07-2008 at 20:28:
FB - I've recently read some of your fics and I think you did something marvelous by taking this familiar character and giving her a completely new existence to explore. It was very inspiring, because up until then it had never dawned on me to even consider that. I think those types of things are very exciting in they expand your ideas for the what the "repertoire" for characters might be.
(If it's not obvious - I really enjoyed your work very much and I'm looking forward to more installments!)
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 09-07-2008 at 00:49:
She writes a really good Swan story. One that you can really get into. Keep em coming FB.
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Posted by Becky Rock on 03-11-2009 at 00:48:
I'm ambivalent about whether the story is canon or not. If its a good story, it doesn't matter to me.
I guess all of my fics are noncanon because I hate Zark and will never include him in a fic. I have liked fics that have him, I just can't bring myself to do it.
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