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Posted by Madilayn on 11-04-2010 at 10:50:

Yeah - that's where I got my region free player from.

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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 11-04-2010 at 10:52:

The Chinese are sooo good at making those!!! LOL The cheaper the DVD player the more likely it would be region free so we discovered. (Without it actually saying it was region free!)

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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 11-04-2010 at 12:20:

Is there someplace you can upload the episodes? Veoh has just lost about half of the BotP episodes they had. I'm afraid to go back there.

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Posted by Garnet on 11-04-2010 at 12:49:

Thanks for the encouragement, Ebonyswanne. I have one fic posted now at Gatchfanfic. I've got two more that I'm working on. One is a hurmor piece and the other is a angsty, tradgedy. For some reason, I love to torture, in some way, the characters I love the most. Evil, I know.evilvsangel

I agree, UnpublishedWriter. When I checked veoh last night, they had not removd any more eps, but I have a bad feeling that they're going to. God, makes me really wish I had a region-free DVD player.


Posted by Transmute Jun on 11-04-2010 at 14:57:

I'm glad you found us here, Littlewolf! As you can see by the poll results at the top, most of us started out watching BOTP. I almost envy you, not having seen Gatchaman. When you do see it, you will be discovering a whole new world...

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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 11-04-2010 at 23:33:

I found that to TJ when I first saw a Gatchaman ep...then I was hooked!

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Posted by littlewolf on 12-04-2010 at 11:32:

Question gatchaman/ BOTP universe

okay need help here!
I know BOTP (going to re watch as many episodes as possible - although I'm going to have to mute it with 7-zark-7)
then there's
Gatchaman, I,II and III?
a radio program/drama
TV adds
OAV 94?
was there a movie, other than the once that was put on hold (yes hold, I refuse to belive its over, there ninja's for noddies sake there don't give up)
rant over... Confused1

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 12-04-2010 at 13:47:

Gatchaman (105 episodes) was altered into BOTP and G-Force (two separate shows about a decade apart).

Gatchaman II (52 episodes) and Gatchaman Fighter (48 episodes) followed a few years later. They were never transalated into English, and most people here haven't seem much of them, and only a select few have seen all of them. Both of these programs were used for Eagle Riders, an Americanized version of the show (similar to BOTP and G-Force).

Just before Gatchaman II was released in Japan, Japanese movie theatres ran a 'Gatchaman' movie, which is almost entirely comprised of clips from regular Gatchaman episodes. It was basically a summary of the main plot points of the first series (Red Impulse and the ending of the series) so that viewers could be reminded before they watched Gatchaman II (It had been a few years and this was in an era where people didn't have VCRs).

The OAV was Tsatsunoko's attempt to revive the Gatchaman franchise, and it failed miserably. It's beautiful, but the character development is practically nil. There are only three 'episodes'.

The radio program/dram was in Japanese, and was also released shortly before Gatchaman II aired. It is entirely in Japanese, and was supposed to explain what happened between series I and series II. I may be wrong, but i think the only person around here who knows anything about those is James, our Gatch Guru.

HTH!

P.S. Littlewolf, is 'dancing in the rain' a Wild boys reference? Big Grin

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Posted by gatchamarie on 12-04-2010 at 15:08:

Great explanation, TJ!

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Posted by tatsunokofan on 12-04-2010 at 17:19:

Hi all!

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It is entirely in Japanese, and was supposed to explain what happened between series I and series II.


Actually, the main purpose of the radio drama was the same as the Gatchaman movie, to remind people of the series and what happened in it before the start of Gatchaman II. There is a single episode of it that acts as a bridge between the two series, not the entire series. The other episodes of the series consisted of adaptations of episodes from the first series (#'s 1, 20, 11, 52~52 (Condensed into one episode), 101 and 103~105 (All four condensed into one episode), aired in that order), three parody episodes, two stories created by fans in a "You Write Gatchaman" contest (Both done in one episode), and radio versions of the stories that would become Gatchaman II episodes (Episode #'s 1~2 (Done as one episode), 3, 4, 5, and 7). The last episode was a roundtable discussion between the actors about doing the radio drama and about the upcoming Gatchaman II TV series.

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The OAV was Tsatsunoko's attempt to revive the Gatchaman franchise, and it failed miserably.


It really wasn't an attempt to "revive the franchise." Rather, it was part of a string of made-for-video revivals of the classic Tatsunoko heroes that were made by Tatsunoko for Nippon Columbia. Gatchaman had been preceeded by a four volume Casshan OAV series, and was followed up by a two volume Hurricane Polymer OAV series (Tekkaman was left out because Tekkaman Blade had already handled that character). All three of these series were intended from the start to be self-contained, and the advertising for them told you exactly how many volumes there were going to be before the first one was even released. There were no plans to continue any of them beyond what we saw.

While none of these were huge breakout successes, they did prove commercially viable and financially profitable for Nippon Columbia, so they did succeed in their intent. Where they "failed" was in impressing fans of the original TV series, who found the OAVs to be lacking in many of the aspects that attracted them to the TV series in the first place. On the other hand, the flashiness of the OAV versions, the Gatchaman one in particular, have proven quite popular with people who are unfamiliar with the TV series (For example, it's pretty obvious from what we saw that the OAVs, as well as the NTT commercials, were a major influence on the visual look that Imagi was going for in their Gatchaman movie).

And, if you want to add to the list of Gatchaman appearances, there were two episodes of Gatchaman that were shown in movie theaters in the summer and winter of 1973 as part of the Toho Champion Festival. These festivals consisted of a roughly 3 hour block of episodes from then-airing kids TV shows and a condensed version of a Toho monster movie, and were shown during the times kids were on vacation from school. Gatchaman #22 was shown during the summer, and Gatchaman #37 was shown during the winter.

James


Posted by Transmute Jun on 12-04-2010 at 19:36:

Thank you for the clarification, James!

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Posted by littlewolf on 13-04-2010 at 08:11:

dancing in the rain

dancing in the rain doesn't have a reference to wild boys, though I do love them
it just cathartic - like screaming loudly in the car with the window up especialy in heavy traffic (ignoring the stares from other people,
like yelling into the wind and wondering if it carries around the world and letting the heavens know your not fallen to your knees and given up, but still standing and determined not to fold
and jumping in puddles cause you can and its fun
like an all out food fight , knowing the clean up will be worth it
dancing in the rain like letting the restriction on your heart and soul disolve and letting your bliss go, you get wet and soggy and the heavier the rain the better, cause if people see you after they think you just got wet, not that sometimes you just need a good deep gut wrenching cry and to let it all go.
IF YOU CAN'T FIND THE KEY, RATTLE YOUR CAGE LOUDLY!
sometimes you just need to poke the pudding and see how it jiggles Poke
...:deep moment ends...

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 13-04-2010 at 13:19:

I like that theory, Littlewolf! Although I had been wondering if we had found another Durannie on this board. Wink

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Posted by Madilayn on 13-04-2010 at 15:31:

What - to add to all the others?? *sigh* I suppose that givn all our ages, it's only to be expected.

I've been trying all day to win tickets to see Spandau Ballet & Tears for Fears in Brisbane at the end of the month. No luck - can't get through in time.

However, there is the rest of this week!!!!! *goes back to listening to her favorite 80's compilation CDs*

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Posted by amethyst on 13-04-2010 at 16:46:

Damn, you know my cousin and I are a year apart (literally within two weeks of a year). She was a big fan of Mark, still is I think (last I heard from her, she'd only seen a handful of Gatch episodes and wasn't impressed) and big time into new wave.

So while she was listening to Duran Duran, Depeche Mode and a bunch of bands I don't remember. I was listening to Def Leppard, Van Halen, Tom Petty, Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot and the Scorpions.

I wonder if that can be used to distinguish Condor fans from Eagle fans?

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 13-04-2010 at 20:00:

Um, Hino is a huge fan of the music you suggest, Amethyst, and she's also one of our primary Eagles on this board.

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Posted by amethyst on 13-04-2010 at 20:50:

Hey, it was just a thought.

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 13-04-2010 at 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by amethyst
Hey, it was just a thought.


And one worth exploring! Wink

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Posted by lborgia88 on 14-04-2010 at 15:37:

And I liked the new wave music best in the 80s.

I'm inclined to think there are some key shared characteristics between the members of each clan here, though I'm not entirely sure what they might be -they might actually be very subjective and different from person to person.

I'm pretty certain that Jason was my favourite on BOTP when I was a kid because I identified with/admired the person who was not in charge but who didn't necessarily do as he was told either. I had to deal with having an older brother and sister calling all the shots (and changing the channel on me when I wanted to watch BOTP) and even if I endured my fate then, I think I had a closet "hot headed rebel" within me somewhere.

I think I carried a lot of this over to Joe when I discovered Gatchaman, though he and Jason aren't the same, and I so love Joe's whole tragic story arc.


Posted by Vodka on 25-04-2011 at 01:53:

I found about Gatchaman while playing Tatsunoko vs Capcom and my first player was Jun, i had never heard or seen Jun and Ken and i really enjoy playing with them intel later throughout the game Joe was an unlockable character and now he is my main and i honestly did not knew they had a show and one day I watched their first episode (Gatchaman) and since then its been my favorite Smile

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