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Posted by shamrokchick on 26-11-2008 at 21:52:

Thanks James for the pictures...

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Originally posted by Transmute Jun
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Originally posted by clouddancer
Hey it is probably better than that ship the team protects early in the series, when RI first shows up and destroys the ship because it is under Galactor control. Sorry I cannot remember the name of the ship.


It's the Blue Hawk. And nope, the Blue Hawk was *far* better looking than the NGP.


I think the Blue Hawk looks better too. But it doesn't seem very aerodynamic. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the New God Phoenix has a similar body style to it...

 

 

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Posted by Springie on 26-11-2008 at 22:04:

Absolutely incredible as usual, James! Thank you!

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Posted by clouddancer on 26-11-2008 at 22:24:

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Originally posted by shamrokchick
quote:
Originally posted by Transmute Jun
quote:
Originally posted by clouddancer
Hey it is probably better than that ship the team protects early in the series, when RI first shows up and destroys the ship because it is under Galactor control. Sorry I cannot remember the name of the ship.


It's the Blue Hawk. And nope, the Blue Hawk was *far* better looking than the NGP.


 


This is the shot I was thinking of when I said I thought the NGP probably flew better than the blue Hawk. With that nose pointed down to the ground there would be a whole lot of drag on the head of that ship. At least the NGP "beak" did not stick down quite as far. Nobody1

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Posted by Metaliant on 26-11-2008 at 22:38:

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Originally posted by tatsunokofan
Hi all!

Okay, a slight update to the previously posted info, now with added pictures that I didn't have time to deal with last night.

James


Thanks again James. For those, like myself who have never seen Gatch Ii and F, the info and pics help us to understand this conversation a bit better.

Still looks like a flying chicken to me though.

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Posted by Metaliant on 26-11-2008 at 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by clouddancer
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Originally posted by shamrokchick
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Originally posted by Transmute Jun
quote:
Originally posted by clouddancer
Hey it is probably better than that ship the team protects early in the series, when RI first shows up and destroys the ship because it is under Galactor control. Sorry I cannot remember the name of the ship.


It's the Blue Hawk. And nope, the Blue Hawk was *far* better looking than the NGP.


 


This is the shot I was thinking of when I said I thought the NGP probably flew better than the blue Hawk. With that nose pointed down to the ground there would be a whole lot of drag on the head of that ship. At least the NGP "beak" did not stick down quite as far. Nobody1


Judging by the pic, the beak on the Blue Hawk was a bit too long for my liking.

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Posted by clouddancer on 26-11-2008 at 22:53:

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Originally posted by Metaliant
Judging by the pic, the beak on the Blue Hawk was a bit too long for my liking.


Probably based on a humming bird rather than a Hawk ..... Wink

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Posted by gatchgirl on 26-11-2008 at 23:02:

James your vast information and knowledge again is much appreciated. I loved the fact that you added episode numbers in that, so people can look into it more.

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Posted by gatchgirl on 26-11-2008 at 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by clouddancer
quote:
Originally posted by Metaliant
Judging by the pic, the beak on the Blue Hawk was a bit too long for my liking.


Probably based on a humming bird rather than a Hawk ..... Wink



My mind hit the rubber room, when I looked a little to long at that front.

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Posted by tatsunokofan on 26-11-2008 at 23:04:

Hi all!

Don't forget, the nose of the Blue Hawk straightened out after the plane took off, reducing drag.

The basic shape of the Blue Hawk, including the moving nose cone, was based off of the look of the real world Concorde supersonic jet. So, even if it doesn't replicate the Concorde perfectly, the basic design style of the Blue Hawk can fly very, very well.

James

Posted by clouddancer on 26-11-2008 at 23:13:

Thank you for all the information and pictures James. I think all the capabilities and equipment certainly make the NGP a ship to be wary of even though it does not look "pretty".

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Posted by shamrokchick on 27-11-2008 at 03:25:

quote:
Originally posted by clouddancer
quote:
Originally posted by Metaliant
Judging by the pic, the beak on the Blue Hawk was a bit too long for my liking.


Probably based on a humming bird rather than a Hawk ..... Wink


Ha ha... Yeah true...

Thanks again James... You're right it does look like it...

 

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Posted by tatsunokofan on 27-11-2008 at 04:33:

Hi all!

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There's not much that can be said in defence of the chicken ship.

But I had one, since there was a shop in the city centre where I grew up selling these rebadged as BOTP, and it was a really good toy


In case you'd like to see a vintage commercial for that toy, it can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEO1IpTdLlg

It's followed by a short commercial for a Starzinger Astrobo toy, then another Gatchaman II commercial, for the Ofuro Set that included a toy of G-Town and a motorized toy of the New God Phoenix, so make sure you watch the full minute's worth of commercials!

James

Posted by Metaliant on 27-11-2008 at 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by clouddancer
quote:
Originally posted by Metaliant
Judging by the pic, the beak on the Blue Hawk was a bit too long for my liking.


Probably based on a humming bird rather than a Hawk ..... Wink


Maybe it should be called the Blue Humming Bird instead?

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Posted by clouddancer on 27-11-2008 at 15:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Metaliant
quote:
Originally posted by clouddancer
quote:
Originally posted by Metaliant
Judging by the pic, the beak on the Blue Hawk was a bit too long for my liking.


Probably based on a humming bird rather than a Hawk ..... Wink


Maybe it should be called the Blue Humming Bird instead?


Maybe they were trying to stick with the Birds of Prey theme. Wink

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Posted by Condorfan on 27-11-2008 at 17:42:

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Originally posted by Transmute Jun
I recall the phone on the bridge of the NGP. I thought it was hysterical that they had such an outdated communication system! Very reminiscent of the Batphone.

I never knew that much about Pimer before! I notice however that unlike Zark, the KNT didn't really seem to have any attachment to him. I guess to them, Pimer was just another piece of the machinery.


Personally between the two I like Pimer. He just does his job and no long boring monologues.

James, thanks again for all your incredible Gatch information. I still say you should write a book!

offtopic I know this doesn't exactly fit in with this thread but I have to wonder--how did the KNT hear with those helmets? I mean that picture of Ken holding the phone to his helmet doesn't make sense!Confused2

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Posted by Barrdwing on 27-11-2008 at 18:58:

Well, three of them had an antenna jutting off of the back and two didn't; I always wondered about that too. Either the antenna was decorative--why?--or there was some reason why Jinpei and Ryu didn't need one.

Then there's the scene where we see Jun with wires plugged into the "eyespots" on her helmet. Still trying to figure that one out. I suppose the "eyespots" are really auditory pickups?

Posted by Metaliant on 27-11-2008 at 20:03:

If you watch the 60s Batman, Batman puts the Batphone, not at the bat ear at the top of the hoof but just below the ear piece.

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Posted by lborgia88 on 30-11-2008 at 00:49:

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Originally posted by Barrdwing
Well, three of them had an antenna jutting off of the back and two didn't; I always wondered about that too. Either the antenna was decorative--why?--or there was some reason why Jinpei and Ryu didn't need one.


Is it possible that an artist at Tatsunoko with a fondness for antennae did the initial sketches of Ken, Joe and Jun's helmets, but another artist did Jinpei's and Ryu's? This could explain also why Ryu and Jinpei have non-bumpy but more eye-like spots on their helmets.

Posted by Condorfan on 02-12-2008 at 08:55:

My theory about the antenna was that the non comic relief members of the team wore them. Winknudge

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Posted by lborgia88 on 02-12-2008 at 14:19:

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My theory about the antenna was that the non comic relief members of the team wore them. Winknudge


That's it! Ryu and Jinpei needed to be able to fall on their heads without fear of breaking off any antennae! Laugh1

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