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Posted by Transmute Jun on 05-04-2010 at 17:21:
IMHO, that one scene where Katse's face is revealed doesn't look *exactly* like Mala, because she alway has her hair pulled away from her face. I think the BOTP people could have just said 'this is Zoltar' and brushed it off as is. After all, these are the same people who took 2 entirely different Red Rangers and called them both Colonel Cronus!
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 05-04-2010 at 19:08:
True about the 'Cronus' blunder. I don't think it fooled a single viewer at the time, although we might have forgotten over the intervening decades.
I wonder what would have happened if the Sandy Frank people had gotten the last four episodes...
I think they would have had to edit those last four episodes of Gatch into a single two-parter in order to satisfy the Standards and Practices people. There's just too much that would not be acceptable. No swan-dive into lava for Zoltar. Find a way around Masaki getting shot between the eyes (that is a very discreet hole), if they use him and Oniishi. Not so much of G2 vs Goons. No G2 leaping out of a flying mecha. No admission that he's dying. So much to cut. Of course, it would all take place on Spectra.
The terrifying thought is how much Zark would be added.
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Posted by clouddancer on 05-04-2010 at 22:15:
Thank you for your review TJ.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 06-04-2010 at 02:56:
Great recap! This one's so damned funny, and you more than did it justice!
The Jinpei-centric eps aren't usually my favourites, but this one, and the one with Dave the Hippy definitely are.
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I crack up whenever I watch this scene.
I love this image -he looks like he's waiting... for me!
Posted by lborgia88 on 06-04-2010 at 03:07:
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I don't remember seeing this BOTP episode as a kid -I think I missed a lot of them, sigh. I'm sure I would have found it an interesting twist on the usual animation stereotype (especially for female characters) of blond=good, brunette=bad. I sure found it interesting when I saw the Gatch version, as I read enough online to know where it was leading...
A clever job on the writers' part -enough revealed to be intriguing (including the hints about the significance of the Himalayas location) but still leaving a lot of mystery.
Posted by tatsunokofan on 06-04-2010 at 04:01:
Hi all!
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I'm sure Satoshi Suyama and the late (
)Hisayuki Toriumi would appreciate that.James
Posted by Madilayn on 06-04-2010 at 05:08:
When you watch the series - and know the final outcome, you can see all the hiints pointing to the Himalayas as the main base.
But if you were watching for the first time with know knowleddge of the outcome, they are remarkably well hidden.
The writers certainly did do an excellent job.
That's probably why it has been and remains so popular - the whole long-range plot was just so ground-breaking for a cartoon of the time and it still draws people in.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 06-04-2010 at 13:16:
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Definitely! And Dave the Hippy is coming up...
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Yes, I seem to recall a certain avatar of yours....
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Posted by lborgia88 on 07-04-2010 at 07:37:
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Ah yes, my first Raven/Joe avatar -the one that, I recall, you made for me because I didn't know how to use Photoshop then...
Posted by Transmute Jun on 07-04-2010 at 14:52:
You know, I think I like it better than your current one... Joe is definitely waiting for yo on his bed, but on the beach... it looks more suspicious. Like you might have done him in.
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Posted by clouddancer on 07-04-2010 at 15:01:
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I was thinking that as well, TJ. Maybe LB wants to take over the Condors job so she killed him off.
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 07-04-2010 at 22:05:
Or like Joe may wake up to a lovely surprise.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 08-04-2010 at 03:23:
Hey, isn't trying to kill Joe sort of a requirement for being his girlfriend? 
But, I suppose I'm due for an avatar change...
Posted by Madilayn on 08-04-2010 at 04:53:
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I suspect that it may very well be.
I suppose, eventually, the lucky girl is the one who tries to kill, and then actually survives the attempt!
Hmmmm I think I should do some more invesitgation of a possible Jason/Tyna romance (BotP - Rage of the Robotoids) - she actually did survive in the BotP-verse!
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 08-04-2010 at 13:35:
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Good point! Of course, yu have to do it juuuuust right, so that he doesn't kill you back.
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