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Posted by Fairlight on 10-04-2008 at 12:27:
I couldn't agree more, Meg. To me, reference to past well-known story elements improves a fic. What's even more fun is character reaction or thoughts about the element that were overlooked in the original show. I love it when an author does that for me. It gives an intimate look into the character. Sometimes doing that even lends a bit of closure to an event that was left unaddressed by the show. A perfect example is Springie's Puttin' on the Ritz. In the beginning, she takes us back to Joe's death and leads us along to how the team might have dealt--or not dealt--with it. The personalities are accurate even through the trauma of losing a member. I found all the reactions very believable. Kudos, Springie. (Love the *commercial*!) 
Posted by Springie on 10-04-2008 at 19:14:
Wow., thanks Fairlight! You guys are making me feel so good! I'm so glad "Ritz" worked for you...I had fun with it!
Oh, and the "commercial" was a result of a very crazy, half asleep Swannie, who had an extra post to fill up... what a scary combination! 
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 12-04-2008 at 05:04:
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- fx. you mention the Cressent Coral base that was destroyed. Ken "lecturing" Jun and Joe about bringing him to the new base even though they were suspicious of him being an impostor, etc.Meg...thanks for the compliment...
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Posted by meg on 15-04-2008 at 21:38:
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In Poland I would say, "It's not a compliment, it's true".
You've dane a great job
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Posted by Rory on 26-04-2008 at 22:20:
Just thought I'd put my two cents in. Hope you don't mind. As a fanfic writer, when I use the term "canon", it means that I have put the fic_within_the setting of a particular series. So whenever I write a canon fic, I pay meticulous attention towards episodes that have a direct connection with the story I'm writing. A lot of canon fans are very anal about meticulousness towards adhering to the series storyline. It is for this reason that I strongly prefer to read fics wherein the writer is allowed to let his or her imagination go free.
Now, when it comes to characterization...let's put it this way. Every individual perceives a character in his or her own way. For example, to some people, they may find Joe too arrogant, brash and aggressive, and they would tend to focus on these personality traits more in their fics, instead of exploring the possibility that he may have another side to him. Personally, I would like to read more fics that would explore possible nuances in their character.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is I don't want to see a writer having his/her imagination inhibited by what canon afficionadoes say. If all fics were to strictly adhere to canon plots and characterization, creativity, imagination and variety would be lost.
Posted by Fairlight on 27-04-2008 at 01:13:
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Very good point, Rory. It's like someone pointed out earlier in the thread, too canon can be boring. I agree. I really like it when an author gives me something that makes me go, "hmmm...," not, "huh!?!?"
Posted by Ebonyswanne on 27-04-2008 at 08:15:
Its interesting to see how some interprets a story... I find when I'm writing I have one picture in my mind of whats happening. But then I have read feedback and the interpretation is different.
They see something, that I thought was minor stand out and make an impact, or something about a characters personality that they see as new- I didn't realize I put in there. And I wrote the story...
I find that fascinating. It shows how different we can see a story when you turn loose your imagination.
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Posted by Rory on 27-04-2008 at 22:00:
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I agree with you on this one. Individual interpretation makes for variety and creativity. Sadly, previous forums I've been in -- especially the Highlander ones -- were so damned rabid (for lack of a better term) about canon. I was too happy to leave that fandom.
Posted by Rory on 27-04-2008 at 22:01:
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True. I personally like writers who explore the "what ifs" and not dwell too much on "what it should be."
Posted by Ebonyswanne on 27-04-2008 at 22:44:
Rory I love Highlander! But I have never been in the forums or read fanfic.
I would have thought it would have been the most open area for creative writers considering the time frames and scope in the series and movies.
I still love the original movie "Highlander" the most. But then I love Queen...
I did a small ficcie from the Song "Gimme the Prize" For Egobossler. I tend to write him as a toned down version of the Kurgan with...
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Posted by Rory on 27-04-2008 at 22:47:
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Believe me, it's not! I was once a member of these Highlander slash forums and my stories practically got flamed. The only reason why people eventually started to like the fics is because one fanartist supported me all the way and made a lot of steamy fanarts for my Highlander fics.
Posted by Ebonyswanne on 27-04-2008 at 23:00:
Well we don't like flamers in Gatch fic forums. Even if the story isn't in that readers style there is no need for it.
Everyone has to start from somewhere, and the more experience you get the better your stories become.
I have to admit I'm not into slash at all, but I don't tell people what they should write just to fit in with my tastes in stories.(As long as the stories have warnings, then theres no problem.) So write away...
Rory there are readers who will like your stories so don't let people in other fandoms turn you off writing.
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Posted by Rory on 27-04-2008 at 23:09:
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Do you want me to give you the honest to goodness truth? I almost quit writing fiction totally because of certain comments people have made about my fics -- both fan and original. The last was when someone criticized me for my sentence construction in what was supposed to be a professional writer's forum. Problem is I AM a magazine writer and editor by profession, so that criticism really hurt a lot and for close to a year, I did not write any fics at all. Eventually, I got around to showing that story to an editor who is my senior and it turned out that my sentence construction was right after all, and she was wrong. Needless to say, after seeing all those slash Gatch arts on the Net kind of got me inspired enough to try writing again but more meticulous. I am rather proud of my first Gatch fic. I never thought I'd put so much attention -- both in the writing and editing -- to a fic.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 27-04-2008 at 23:14:
Rory! am glad that you did not quit! I have had negative comments on my fics as well, and also (what for me is the WORST) absolute and utter silence. But I keep writing for ME.
It doesn't hurt that I have a few 'fans' whom I know will read whatever I write, and give me honest feedback, so that helps a bit, but honestly, if *I* didn't enjoy the writing, then I wouldn't do it, KWIM?
Sounds to me like you are posting your stories in the wrong places. JMHO.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 27-04-2008 at 23:52:
Well from I see when I read a book, its the story that draws me in. If the reader only saw the grammar and sentence structure then it makes me wonder if they actually read the story itself.
In professional writing I don't see comments on sentence structure in a book review. I do see from critiques things like if the plot worked, were the characters dimensional and well developed. Did the story draw them in...
The rest can be fixed!!! And honestly sentence structure is the last thing I comment on, to me thats up to a beta reader or editor...
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Posted by Fairlight on 28-04-2008 at 00:15:
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You'd be surprised how anal some people can be. I read a lot of the comments/reviews at fanfic archives to find out if it's a story I'd be interested in. Bloody hell, those are the reasons I never got into writing fanfic. I was terrified of the comments I might receive when I posted that little Ryu's and Joe's journal entries on Gatchaman FanFic Archive. It's ultimately the reason I took them down. Not that I was flamed. Just the fear of it.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 28-04-2008 at 00:36:
You posted fics?????
REALLY?
I don't think I've seen those, Fairlight! You should post again! I promise I'll comment, and no matter WHAT I think, I won't say anything bad. That's just NMS.
But I'm really curious, now!
(Just so you know, there are a number of people on that site who have feather shuriken up their collective a$$. It doesn't pay to do anything but ignore them. 
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Posted by clouddancer on 28-04-2008 at 00:53:
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I remember those ... I think.
Please post them here, I would love to read them again.
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Posted by Fairlight on 28-04-2008 at 00:59:
You probably do, CD. TJ, they were very short and nondescript. Forgettable in other words. I can't repost them (sorry). They were casualties when my computer died!
Posted by Springie on 28-04-2008 at 01:02:
Could you rewrite them? I remember reading them and they were very good! I'm pretty sure I commented, too...didn't I? 
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