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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 26-02-2008 at 10:50:
So Tone...who's winning????
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Posted by Becky Rock on 03-11-2009 at 01:02:
I've been having to think about this a lot as I work on my Faith of the Heart crossover between BotP and Enterprise.
Enterprise has had several episodes dealing with time travel, which is what got me started.
But here's the problem the Enterprise faces - will the very fact G-Force has come forward in time change everything?
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 03-11-2009 at 01:43:
Only if they act on what they experienced. I think they'd be smart enough to avoid that. But knowing that there would be a Federation of Planets (and peace with Spectra?) could encourage them in their fight. They know the result, and it gives them heart in the darker times that come.
In one of the original series episodes, Spock says that Captain Christopher could use what he saw to manipulate key stocks and industries. That would only work if Christopher knew which ones to manipulate. He'd have to know that ABC Widgets would be important in the future (even if it was little more than a garage operation in his time), or that it would become Alpha Beta Gamma Doohickeys by the year 2130. Otherwise, he could change things by buying the wrong stocks or getting involved in the wrong industries.
(Right now, time travel probably takes more energy than we can generate, even if we knew how to do it.)
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 03-11-2009 at 01:53:
I think it depends what G-Force does. ALthough frankly, with the Enterprise series (I presume you mean the Enterprise series, based on your title) they were always running off half-cocked and doing all kinds of things with the least provocation... comes of being the first ones to do anything and not having any regulations set up, I guess. So I think it would be extremely difficult for G-Force NOT to impact the future... unless somehow the future was reset and the Enterprise crew didn't know that they had ever met G-Force.
OR, you could do a mirror universe. I really enjoyed the Enterprise Mirror Universe double-ep.
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Posted by amethyst on 03-11-2009 at 02:55:
Becky, from what I've read of your story, what I remember of Enterprise (my weakest area of the Star Trek universe), and from other stories and movies that I've seen with time travel, it's far more likely for someone going to the past from the future to muck things up, than someone from the past going to the future and back; unless they were to do it intentionally.
I'm just wondering if you are going to send them back through the wormhole or if the Enterprise is going to have to escort them back to Earth's solar system. I really wonder if Tiny is as good a pilot as Sulu: can he sling shot the phoenix around the sun for time warp?
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Posted by gatchamarie on 03-11-2009 at 07:33:
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Generally, someone goes to the past to prepare others for an upcoming event for which they were not prepared or to change an event which could have gone better or even to answer some unanswered questions! That's from what I can recall seeing! One has to be most careful how to mess with the past though as a full chain of connected events could be altered affecting the whole present situation, even some things which have to remain unaltered!
I can also recall seeing movies including persons going to the future, either intentionally or unintentionally, and when they return back to their present they amend things and events which would then give a more pleasant outcome for their lives and that of others! (an e.g. Meet the Robinsons - sorry but I'm more in children's movies lately!)
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Posted by Becky Rock on 04-11-2009 at 01:06:
I would believe the Enterprise crew would have to be careful what they told G-Force about the ending of the war with Spectra, just incase they were able to return, for fear of changing the future, hence Enterprise's time.
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Posted by Becky Rock on 04-11-2009 at 21:08:
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Yes, Enterprise did have a lot of seat of the pants diplomacy. I always liked the way the characters interacted and that contributed to my idea for the crossover.
I like the mirror episodes, too. The ending of the Enterprise one was interesting.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 05-11-2009 at 01:33:
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The funny thing is, my favorite part was the introduction/theme song... and the way it was different.
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Posted by MrVampire on 29-12-2009 at 12:12:
Time is an illusion.
Lunchtime doubly so.
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Posted by Tengu on 29-12-2009 at 12:58:
Watching `Noein` taught me one thing;
Babysitting a 12 year old version of yourself is not nice for both parties.
Also Deloreans (Would you belive I was offered one once??) make lousy time machines since they only ever take you back to an uncool time.
And water running off the gullwing doors will get you mucky. Why do you think so few cars have doors that open that way even though it looks cool on a dry day?
Two time travel stories.
`Nightwatch` by Mr Pratchett, (his best ever IMHO) in which he gets over the paradox problem in an ingenious way.
`Legion of Time` by Jack wiliamson, One of the finest pulps ever written, in which he introduces the concept of the Jonbar Hinge. (look it up in wiki)
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 30-12-2009 at 01:42:
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