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Posted by Condorfan on 25-09-2006 at 00:30:
LEAST favorite episode
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In watching Gatchaman (again for the Nth time) I realized there were a few episodes I wasn't thrilled with. The Jigokillers episode for one--I didn't like to see Ken slap Jun. And I also didn't like Joe slapping her either in the Jiro episode. (She needs to take those guys down a peg). What other episodes of Gatch or BOTP do people not like?
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Posted by Springie on 25-09-2006 at 01:16:
I have to say...those are some of my favorite episodes (Jigokillers is my #1 fav., followed by The Bitter Bird Missile ep)...but I didn't like them slapping Jun either! I noticed that Joe hits her a whole lot harder than Ken did...Ken's almost seemed like it was "for show"...like he did it because he would have done it to any of the other guys...so he had to do it to her,too, to not show favoritism. 
(LOL)I think there are many others who agree...because I have seen several fanfics that deal with the slapping incidents. My least favorite ep is #46...Gatchaman in the Valley of Death. It only has Ken in it...so I miss the rest of the team! Gotta have the team interaction!
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Posted by meridianday on 25-09-2006 at 07:59:
It's not as if Jun lacks the capability to hit the guys back. She hits (and kills) Galactors all the time. Hitting each other seems to be a significant part of how the team get along. If somebody knows they were wrong, they don't hit back - it seems to be a team rule.
I always find ep 20, the puppy episode, to be cringeworthy. It has an added cringe factor, as when I was watching G-Force and trying to get my husband to watch it too (he remembered BOTP) to bring back some memories, the day he agreed to watch it with me it was the puppy episode. Now, the japanese version, being in a foreign language, has all that melodrama but it's not so bad if you can't understand the words. The G-Force version, being in english, is banal. So I never got a chance to get him to watch another episode of G-Force with me after that.
I don't think there are any other original Gatch episodes I truly dislike. There are some truly daft ones, like the bowling ball one and the one with the flying rainbow walrus, but I can happily watch those as the silliness fills me with glee.
Gatch 2 has the green neanderthals episode, that's quite poor. Also the pyramid power episode. And I'm not sure about the Jinpei talks to animals episode either.
The Gatch F episode with the cows has to be seen just to be believed. If you follow my website link and go to Gatch F reviews, I have a writeup on it and a number of other Gatch F episodes (ah, if only my NTSC vcr hadn't died). Unfortunately my views on Gatch F are seriously affected by the fact that I haven't got a blood clue what's going on a lot of the time. The storytelling isn't quite as obvious as original Gatch.
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Mallanox : "My mother was Irish and my father was an alien. I was an only child and I dress funny." Posted by Condorfan on 25-09-2006 at 19:10:
I'll admit that the Jigokillers was a good character show spotlighting Jun and showing how Ken feels about her. It's just when Ken goes off and disobeys orders that OK?! I guess if one of the guys had gone off he would have slugged them (except Jinpei--he probably would have got a rap on the head).
I think I would also have to agree the puppy episode was strange. It might have made sense if Joe had rescued a child instead. Although it was good to show how the team cares about each other. But Dr. Nambu though--Yes you have a brain injury--let's put you in a centrifuge!
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Posted by CricketBeautiful on 26-09-2006 at 17:16:
Mummy is my least fav so far. Telling he kid that his father won't come back if he's not good. I prefer the BOTP version; haven't seen it for a while, so it may have some of the same, but I like how Mark lets the kid blame him and hate him so that he'll really believe his father's dead and get closure. Very early in the series, but especially poignant later, when we realize that Mark probably wishes he could believe his own father was dead rather than torture himself with "he might be alive".
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Posted by Metaliant on 29-09-2006 at 17:13:
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I agre with you there with that episode Cricket. In fact, that was properly my favourite bit in the episode.
I don't think I have any favourite episodes in either series but there are some that I am not keen on. Jigokillers is one that is my least favorite for some unknown reason. I wil also agree with the puppy episode that because if you had to save a puppy and got a head inury, then you are spun around so fast that you are dizzy and the chances that you get killed are 2 - 1.
I do like the fact that that episode and several others in BOTP are more about a member of the team.
As for Jun getting slapped, that's just called equal opportunites.
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Posted by Buffy on 30-09-2006 at 12:02:
I'd say my least favorite is the roller skating episode.
There are just some things that super secret ninjas should not be asked to do...
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Posted by meridianday on 30-09-2006 at 17:03:
Ah yes. I really like that episode right up until they do the rollerskate fight. Up until then it's a great character episode and Jun gets to dress up. But fighting on rollerskates is one of those things that should never be done, like running with scissors - even ninjas shouldn't do that.
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Mallanox : "My mother was Irish and my father was an alien. I was an only child and I dress funny." Posted by Springie on 30-09-2006 at 19:28:
I agree with you, Meridian! It was fun watching them skate, and seeing Jun with the clothes...but the "Bird Whip" was ridiculous!
"BIRD WHIP!" LOL...
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Posted by Metaliant on 01-10-2006 at 10:25:
\Oh, forgot tht one. That was just silly, a bird whip indeed. Whose ide was that or did they just make that up.
What ever will be next? Bird Whip Cream.
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Posted by gatchgirl on 02-10-2006 at 00:59:
I will agree that some of those episodes you really need to be in the right frame of mind to enjoy, another episode that I really have a hard time watching is the one with Orian the dog, not sure why it can be a painful experiance. Guess it's just this crazy mind of mine.
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Posted by Ruthie on 02-10-2006 at 02:08:
I have to agree with you guys on the bird roller episode. The sad thing is, the first 20 minutes of this are FANTASTIC. The night fight in the woods, the plane ride, the character interaction, Jinpei shucking the hero stuff to be a regualar kid, even the time spent practicing at the roller rink. It's the last several minutes that are PAINFUL!!. (Joe still looks hot, though! 
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Posted by Ruthie on 02-10-2006 at 02:10:
And Jun posing in front of the mirror was precious.
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Posted by Springie on 02-10-2006 at 02:25:
I agree...it was nice seeing Jun get to be a girl for once...although they could have let her wear better clothes in the show...and it would have been nice if the rest of the team hadd been there to watch...but I guess they were "on duty"...
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Posted by Springie on 02-10-2006 at 02:30:
I also wasn't too fond of the "Mysterious Red Sand" episode...I found it kinda boring...don't know why...
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Posted by Metaliant on 02-10-2006 at 19:35:
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I didin't think that was a reat episode, not because it was a painful experince but it was painful just watching it.
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Posted by Metaliant on 02-10-2006 at 19:39:
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Yeah, I know what you mean.
I think that every series has certain episodes that aren't brilliant. Take Star Trek, Dr Who, Stargate, Blake's 7, just name a few. This could be just that you can't just have great episodes every single time.
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Posted by gatchgirl on 02-10-2006 at 22:51:
It was rather painful to watch Metaliant, also springie I will have to try and watch at least part of that episode before I reply.
Nice to see ya stopping by again Ruthie, feel free to visit us or my crazy personallity more often.
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Posted by Metaliant on 03-10-2006 at 05:57:
Is that wise, visting your crazy personality? Could anybody catch it via the internet?
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Posted by gatchgirl on 04-10-2006 at 22:16:
Why are you afraid of a little insanity!!! muwawawawa 
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