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Posted by Elvin Ruler on 09-09-2004 at 14:11:
Blagh
Isn't the week over yet?! Feels like it shoulded have ended yesterday. Blah...
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Posted by Cep on 09-09-2004 at 14:20:
Yup its still going strong, but no matter things will improve....I Hope 
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Posted by Elvin Ruler on 09-09-2004 at 17:10:
Yup, they will because tomorrow's Friday! Wooo!
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Posted by CricketBeautiful on 09-09-2004 at 18:09:
Does that mean I'll actually find more than half of what I expect in any one store?
Grumbles. Knew I should have gone to Canadian Tire instead of Zellers.
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Posted by Lolabella on 09-09-2004 at 18:52:
My work week is over in a couple of hours! I have tomorrow off. I usually have Thursdays off, but I had to be in today for a meeting.
The weekend will find me studying for my first SQL test on Monday. Wish me luck!
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Posted by Elvin Ruler on 09-09-2004 at 19:52:
Good luck!
Me, I just finished the First Test of the Semester. And it was easy! Woohoo!
I let my dad buy my tires. Much easier, considering he actually knows what's a good deal/tire or not. Hurrah for dads!
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Posted by meridianday on 09-09-2004 at 20:57:
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Good luck
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Mallanox : "My mother was Irish and my father was an alien. I was an only child and I dress funny." Posted by Lolabella on 09-09-2004 at 21:07:
Oh Meridian! That was cute!
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Posted by Cep on 10-09-2004 at 07:38:
SQL? s'easy
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Posted by CricketBeautiful on 10-09-2004 at 13:40:
Hope so -- hubby's learning it starting the 16th, leaving me alone with the kids for Thursday evenings. But, first he's got to learn MS-Access.
Seeing as he does Pro-IV and Oracle already,...
But the MS-Access for Dummies book doesn't describe how to actually get data into the database, just how to do the reports.
Duhhh,...
Come to think of it, I think I played around with it back in 1988, just a few simple reports so I could see if they were using the fields consistently.
The local college has a reputation for having, ah, folks who don't meet the pre-reqs, in their courses, so it'll be interesting. His coworkers usually finish their homework during the lessons. Still, it'll keep him moving, so he actually finishes the learning, and the company pays for it unless he screws up.
Maybe he'll be able to use his family calendar program as an assignment.
Good luck to all!
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Posted by Cep on 11-09-2004 at 09:28:
Well I'm an Access developer too luv its easy to get the data into the DB tables just depends on what the database is and is actually trying to do.
If he knows Oracle though he should have absolutely no problems at all.
If he needs help, let me know.
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Posted by CricketBeautiful on 13-09-2004 at 17:29:
Many thanks, for the offer, Cep.
Seems there is a chapter or two on getting the data in, once he actually read the relevent chapters, which didn't have decent titles (or maybe he was just too ready to assume the worst -- he's got no love for any MS product).
(Reminds me of my programming course in univerisity -- one of my classmates didn't know why he got a low mark one time -- he got the algorithm part right, he thought. Turn out (this being Fortran), no one had actually pointed out that a program needs four parts: housekeeping, data in, data manipulation, data out. He never printed the result of all his calculations! Didn't help that the prof was taling about input files and the TA in the lab was talking about input from the keyboard. Half of us slept through that class, the other half had nightmares about it.)
Right now, OneBit's a bit miffed that the course looks like it will be about Access and MS's patented flavour of SQL, rather than SQL itself. And he'll need Visual Basic. His coworker took Access and VB there already, and they'll be sitting together, and their company has no problems with them installing the stuff at work so they can do homework there during lunch.
Oracle, he's dabbling in -- not enough time to really learn it, and one of his coworkers is pretty good at it, but they do want to move to it for the next product. But, he's Hell on Wheels in Pro-IV and C. (Yeah, I'm proud of the guy.)
I'm not too worried about him having problems -- he picks up languages and concepts quickly. It's more that he'll spend more time learning VB and Access than the SQL he's taking it for. He's got three weeks to decide to quit and still get his money back.
Cheers!
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Posted by meridianday on 13-09-2004 at 17:53:
Access is a bugger with its SQL. It insists on having brackets everywhere, even if you have just one item in an if condition you have to have brackets around it. SQL is very straightforward, but everyone has their own flavour and MS Access isn't the same flavour as MS SQL Server, and definitely not the same flavour as Oracle, when you want to actually do stuff like set up temp tables and so on.
I learnt SQL Server first, and I have a big fight with Access whenever I want it to do anything. But it seems mostly I have to work out how to make it write something like the query I want itself, and then amend it to make it do as close as possible to what I want.
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I think the best way to learn MySQL is to create PHP driven websites... thats my opinion.
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Posted by CricketBeautiful on 14-09-2004 at 14:24:
I forwarded the notes to him. Looks like the course won't teach him what he needs, then, but it will force him to sit down and learn something related.
We'll see. It's been a while since he had a night out all by himself on a regular basis, so that's another bonus (for him).
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Posted by CricketBeautiful on 17-09-2004 at 02:11:
And, we're in luck. Well, he is. Clear cut case of he likes the instuctor, the course, and all the rest of it.
Turns out the instructor has 20 years of database experience, including Oracle, and 5 of instructing, including daytime courses. Only reason it's on Access is that Oracle has a funny educational license -- more for night classes. So, he teaches the Oracle version in the day, and the Microsoft Sequel Server version at night. The only reason Access was a requirement was that's the most commonly used relational database, but any one will do. He says he moves fast, but fully expects the assignments to finished with half an hour to go of class / lab time.
So, good for hubby. Not so good for me -- solo bedtime with two kids for the next four months. Not impossible, not even worth whining about, but I've had it easy for ages, so I'll just have to get strict with myself about keeping the bedtime moving (and not dozing off just before toothbrush time like I did tonight).
Meanwhile, I'm busily hoping that Buffy and friends in the southern US are doing okay. They were expecting power outages, so we won't hear from them for a while, even if the winds miss them.
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Posted by Cep on 17-09-2004 at 07:45:
Wonder if Yuki has had her little arrival yet...
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Posted by Yuki on 17-09-2004 at 21:10:
Cep, you are so sweet in thinking of me.
But no, the baby has not arrived yet. Still another almost 3 months time, but I am huge like a whale..
*chuckles* of course you won't be interested in the details. Anyhow.. doing fine here, tired as whatever, so please pardon me for continuing to be AWOL. But you guys are always on my mind.
And again thanks for thinking of me.. Will update later.
*smooches all*
Yuki
Posted by Elvin Ruler on 18-09-2004 at 02:17:
Have you found out if it's a boy or a girl?
*squee*
I like babies. ^_^ They're so cute. Tough to handle sometimes, but still cute.
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Posted by meridianday on 18-09-2004 at 04:23:
Yuki has posted pre-birth (3D!) pics of the baby over at Clubhouse. Cute and technologically impressive
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