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Posted by AllentownDarkWater on 17-08-2010 at 23:31:
This screenshot
It says the number 2 on the shirt, but the face looks like Ken and not Joe. I'm thinking it is Ken, and it's just a mistake with the shirt, but I want to know the facts.
http://gatchonline.com/gallery/pictures/039_020.jpg
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Posted by clouddancer on 18-08-2010 at 00:13:
Ummm? What do you know about the Birdgo site?
Obviously Ken and Joe put on the wrong shirts in the morning.
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Posted by Hinotori on 18-08-2010 at 00:18:
It looks Joe-ish to me, but I see what you're saying. Maybe he's their offspring??? 
(ok, you seriously have to understand the BirdGo site to get that one!) 
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Posted by Madilayn on 18-08-2010 at 00:29:
No - that's a screenshot from the series, so not fanart. It's definitely Joe - but just a poorly drawn Joe.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 18-08-2010 at 00:35:
It's Joe. Perhaps a little more 'soft' in his facial lines. I believe it's from an early episode, when he tended to be drawn more that way.
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Posted by AllentownDarkWater on 18-08-2010 at 00:46:
I guess I don't understand the Birdgo website. Would you please explain?
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Posted by Hinotori on 18-08-2010 at 00:58:
Let's just say the fics on BirdGo have all sorts of character pairings.
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Posted by AllentownDarkWater on 18-08-2010 at 01:37:
I wasn't asking about a pairing. I was asking if a pic was Joe or if it was Ken with the wrong shirt on.
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Posted by lyon on 18-08-2010 at 01:39:
the hell. they have one pairing.
Ken + Joe.
you know how some people look just like their pets? i guess Joe's been hanging out with Ken too long in this screenshot.
and yes, it's Joe. the shape of the eyes and that he's wearing his driving gloves gives it away.
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Posted by gatchamarie on 18-08-2010 at 07:54:
I agree that this is truly a screenshot from the beginning of the series! I remember myself thinking how, many a time, Ken and Joe were similarly drawn, sometimes! Joe's features became more distinct, and prominent, as the series went on. In this shot, the eyes, apart from the t-shirt, are definitely those of the Condor!
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Posted by Springie on 18-08-2010 at 08:28:
Yep...that's Joe asking Ken "What kind of man are you? Are you just gonna let her die?" in the Jigokillers ep...he just knocked the crap out of Ken...I'd recognize that anywhere...
Somebody drew the corneas too large for Joe...
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Posted by gatchamarie on 18-08-2010 at 13:02:
Thanks for the clarification regarding the exact episode from which this shot was taken, Springie! I knew I have seen it somewhere!
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 18-08-2010 at 14:27:
So later in the series than I thought... but yes, Springie, that's it! You're soooo good! I can picture the entire scene now...
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Posted by AllentownDarkWater on 18-08-2010 at 15:20:
I guess that pic is either from Gatchaman II or Gatchaman Fighter then, am I right?
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Posted by lborgia88 on 18-08-2010 at 16:12:
No, he'd be wearing very different civvies if it were a Gatch II or Fighter episode. Springie is right -it's from the first of the Jigokillers episodes (ep. 39) in the first series.
Posted by lborgia88 on 18-08-2010 at 16:19:
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If I recall, didn't we joke about an "intern animator" when TJ recapped episode 31? Joe looked somewhat... different in various places in that episode, rather similar to how he does in this ep. 39 screencap. Maybe the "intern animator" worked on episode 39 too.
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Posted by AllentownDarkWater on 18-08-2010 at 16:50:
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I haven't seen that one yet. Sorry about the mix up. It looked like Ken's face when I first saw the pic, and I wasn't sure who it was supposed to be, and that's why I asked my fellow forum members since I'm still kind of a n00b. I understand now after seeing your pics though, Iborgia88.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 18-08-2010 at 18:32:
That's okay, Allen. We're always happy to answer questions and educate people about our favorite topic! 
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Posted by lyon on 18-08-2010 at 19:51:
holy shit.
i just realised that's a BIRDGO screencap.
who is gatchonline and why are they stealing my pictures?
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Posted by lborgia88 on 18-08-2010 at 20:59:
Gatchonline is Carolyn Kaufman's site (she goes by "Katsesama" here).
http://gatchonline.com/versions/versions.htm
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