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Posted by gatchamarie on 07-03-2010 at 19:22:

Question Did you know?

I was browsing through some Italian websites and I read something that I never was aware of. Did you know that the title "Gatchaman" originated casually after the similar aspect between the coupling of dragonflies, "gatcha suru", and the unition of the five vehicles with the God Phoenix? I never knew it and I don't know how much truth is in this fact ... perhaps someone could confirm this to me, please?! Sorry if perhaps I never came through this in another past thread!

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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 07-03-2010 at 20:17:

In the extras, there was no mention of mating dragonflies, but there was something about the joining of machinery. It sounded a bit confusing.

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Posted by clouddancer on 07-03-2010 at 20:26:

That is what I remember from the Gatchaman Extras as well. The sound the mechas make when join.

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Posted by tatsunokofan on 08-03-2010 at 02:05:

Hi all!

The "Gatcha" part of the name is supposedly based on the onomatopoeia that Japanese use as the "sound effect" for when mechanical items bang into each other; "Gatchan~!" In English, it would be like using "Clang~!" as the basis of a title. The dragonfly part comes from the unfortunate Japanese use of the aforementioned "Gatcha-suru" as the onomatopoeia for that insect mating, but that similarity is not intentional.

The name of the series was actually something that was settled upon fairly late in the planning stages for the show. The earliest known name for the series was "Science Ninja Squad Number 5." At one point, the name "Torimekaman" was considered ("Tori" being Japanese for "Bird," "Meka" being "Mecha," or a mechanical device, and "Man" being, well, "Man." Proving that nothing ever goes to waste, this name later appeared as the name of the villains in episode #12 of Hurricane Polymer), and the series almost went with "Birdman" as its title. The name change to "Gatchaman" came late enough that, reading through the scenario draft of the story for episode #3 of the series, one can still find a few references to "Birdman" that were accidentally left in it.

Changing the name to "Gatchaman" came at the suggestion of an executive from the Yomiuri Advertising Agency (Commonly referred to simply as "Yomiko"), whose job it was to promote the series, find sponsors for it, and to act as an intermediary between the studio and those sponsors. Why he thought that "Gatchaman" was a superior (And more salable) name than "Birdman" is unknown, but Tatsunoko followed his suggestion.

James


Posted by gatchamarie on 08-03-2010 at 07:23:

Thanks for your intervention, girls, and thanks again for the interesting info, James! I was a bit confused when I read the connotation but, after reading your explanation, everything makes more sense! It so nice to know more about the origins!

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Posted by green on 08-03-2010 at 10:33:

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Originally posted by tatsunokofan

Why he thought that "Gatchaman" was a superior (And more salable) name than "Birdman" is unknown, but Tatsunoko followed his suggestion.



I'm rather glad he did. I much prefer to be known as a Gatchamanic than a Birdmanic!

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Posted by JohngPR on 09-03-2010 at 16:26:

Very cool. I didn't know where the name originated from. Thanks!

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Posted by Barrdwing on 11-03-2010 at 06:36:

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Originally posted by green
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Originally posted by tatsunokofan

Why he thought that "Gatchaman" was a superior (And more salable) name than "Birdman" is unknown, but Tatsunoko followed his suggestion.



I'm rather glad he did. I much prefer to be known as a Gatchamanic than a Birdmanic!


Especially if you happen to remember the TV series Birdman and the Galaxy Trio, or better yet Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law Wikipedia has some info on each of these: Birdman and the Galaxy Trio
Harvey Birdman

Of the two, Harvey Birdman is a lot funnier, being a spoof of the earlier Birdman; it also pokes ruthlessly at any random Hanna-Barbera character they could think of.

Thank goodness Tatsunoko went with "Gatchaman" for their name instead! Can you imagine being confused with either of these?


Posted by tatsunokofan on 11-03-2010 at 07:57:

Hi all!

I had wondered if the Hanna Barbera "Birdman" series was a consideration in changing Tatsunoko's "Birdman" to "Gatchaman." Checking into it, I found out that the Hanna Barbera series was called "U-Bird" in Japan, not "Birdman." Okay, the full Japanese title was "Electronic Birdman U-Bird" ("Densho Chojin U-Bado" phonetically), but with such a different title, I doubt that it played any part in the name change.

Regardless, Harvey Birdman is a hilarious show, and well worth watching! Birdman and the Galaxy Trio is fun if you like the various 1960s Hanna Barbera hero series (Space Ghost, Herculoids, Mightor, and the like), but if you're not already a fan of those, you'd probably wonder why anyone would care about it.

James


Posted by MrVampire on 11-03-2010 at 10:45:

And don't forget the original Sealab 2020, (and the remashed Sealab 2021).

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Posted by lborgia88 on 11-03-2010 at 15:07:

"Birdman" makes me think of that inmate at the very Alcatraz-like Jinjin Prison in ep. 42.


I'm glad they went with "Gatchaman" -I think it sounds cooler and more dignified!


 


Posted by gatchamarie on 11-03-2010 at 18:25:

You're right, LB! I think "Gatchaman" is definitely better and cooler, not just because I'm used to the name from the very beginning but because compared to "Birdman" it really sounds neater and makes more impact.

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