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Posted by Becky Rock on 26-10-2009 at 23:47:
Jason's Fate
Julie K. and I were discussing some fan fics we were working on and got into a discussion about Jason and his fate. Since BotP ended without a clear resolution of the war, what was going to happen to Jason?
G-Force Defector indicates Jason experienced a medical problem. Although a flash of blinding light from the sun reflecting on a street lamp causes him to lose control of his car and crash, no mention is made of any injuries received in the crash. Later, while on the fire escape, he experiences double vision and vertigo along with his numb hand. The only thing Jason states is that it’s starting again as he massages his hand. In Strike at Spectra, he suffers a concussion. They all know he was injured. It wasn’t something he could hide.
These two events are actually not related unless you want to believe the medical problem created the situation where Jason suffered the concussion.
I went back to Jason Hofius’ BotP book and looked at the episodes. It lists the order in which the episodes were supposed to be aired, which does not follow the Gatch order. G-Force Defector was episode 66 and Strike at Spectra episode 70. Could they really be related the way they were used in BotP?
Jason shows a bit of a temper at times in the episodes, but nothing extravagant. He’s no more difficult than Mark, who has his moments, too. He doesn’t appear to be on a destructive path. BotP gives no indication Jason was supposed to die, so why do some of us think he should?
Jason doesn’t appear to be as driven as Joe. We know absolutely nothing about Jason’s past, nothing about his parents. He isn’t seeking revenge as Joe did.
The team had to have been shown intelligence about Spectra as they were training in order to understand what they were going to face and why. After that, I feel Jason would have decided to do everything he could to stop Spectra because he didn’t want the Earth to be taken over. If that meant running himself into the ground, he might do it.
Would Jason keep any medical problems he was having a secret? Maybe. The episodes only mentioned his numb hand, which he never told anyone about. The episode indicates it happened before. Could it be dangerous? Yes. What if he needed to fire a missile and couldn’t?
I don’t think Jason would purposefully endanger his teammates. Himself, yes, but not his teammates. Jason didn’t argue with Mark in Strike at Spectra when he sent him back to the Phoenix. That shows maturity. He did hide things in Defector, but I would hope Jason would also be mature enough to tell someone if he was experiencing persistent medical problems that would endanger the team.
Joe was afraid they’d take him off the team if they knew how badly off he was. Jason never voiced that fear.
Other opinions?
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 27-10-2009 at 00:21:
In my Place on the Team fic, I surmised that the issues Jason suffers in both episodes were related, and suggested the cause. And after Strike at Spectra, the problem is completely fixed, and Jason is completely cured. just as we see in the show. 
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Posted by amethyst on 27-10-2009 at 00:36:
We know that in the final episode he recovers quicker than Keyop; if he were having chronic health problems that would not have happened. I think those people that are writing Jason's doom are trying to either make BotP parallel with Gatchaman or to make it them follow the same plots. It doesn't have to happen.
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Posted by clouddancer on 27-10-2009 at 00:58:
I don't see Jason's fate as being the same as Joe's. A possibility is, his illnesses could be related to the implants that the team has.... maybe he is rejecting his. That might be a way to remove Jason from the team without having him die.
Of course one could then always have him implanted with new and improved implants that increase his strength and resistance over the rest of the team.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 27-10-2009 at 01:07:
I have thought about this in my own Au conclusions. (I have figured out how to deal with it.)But its not Jason dying because BOTP didn't have people die in it, unlike Gatchaman.
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Posted by amethyst on 27-10-2009 at 02:18:
I have to say that I really like CathRL's take on it in her AU. Off course, my mother-in-law and daughter both suffer from the same problem to different degrees, and I've just learned today that my younger son may suffer them, too, complete with the blurry and loss vision. Sorry, but if you haven't figured out what I'm talking about, I recommend reading Cath's Battle AU, a very good set of stories which I wouldn't want to spoil.
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 27-10-2009 at 14:20:
EVERYONE'S fate is up for grabs, which is why the post-war fics can be so varied. They all die. Some die. They all live. What sort of lives do they have now that they're no longer required to fight Spectra?
Since we only know that the members of G-Force are orphans (and Keyop is a clone or artificial in some way), there's plenty to play with. Mark's story turns out similar to Ken's, but the others are ciphers. Some fic writers have tried to give Jason a life story similar to Joe's (I recall one that made Jason a Spectran whose parents were murdered for trying to defect), but it's not really necessary.
The BOTP writers had a job interpreting character behavior. They rewrote the original Gatch plots to fit their new interpretation, and some were rewritten COMPLETELY. Since they didn't follow the original Gatch order, they either had to gloss over things or find new explanations. So you can explain Jason any way you want.
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Posted by Becky Rock on 27-10-2009 at 19:58:
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CD, I've seen the implant option in several fics, which is always a viable possibility, but then you open it up for all of them to have problems unless there is a specific reason for Jason's implant failing. Then the question would be is the implant problem possibly fatal? Can it be repaired or replaced? Will Jason return to normal afterwards? Lots of fic fodder.
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Posted by Becky Rock on 27-10-2009 at 20:03:
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Amethyst, I'm sorry to hear members of your family suffer from migraines. I do, too, so I know what you're going through.
Catherine's AU is one of my favorite, but that creates another question. In Gatch, Ken suffers serious problems from using the sword. Catherine has Mark's implant malfunctioning so badly it leave his partially crippled. Is that a case of follwoing the Gatch story-line?
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 27-10-2009 at 21:41:
Not sure Becky, I think the implants leave a lot of room to do things like malfunctions that cause issues for the team. I don't go as far as thinking they take care of every problem for them though health wise, there has to be a give some where in it. (I have it that Jason develops a brain tumor caused by scaring when his implant was put in, its possible to still function and have a brain tumor.)
I agree with the ficcie fodder! I've only started into BOTP ficcies and I feel difference when writing up the characters and how the implants change a lot in how they perform etc.
Amethyst, sorry to hear you have migrains in the family, I'm lucky in that way I don't suffer from them.
The Hypershoot is different, his illness is from over exposure to radiation. The other aspect you could take is that its triggered a dormat disease in Ken from using the hypershoot.
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Posted by clouddancer on 27-10-2009 at 22:14:
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Ummmm, I am not sure what happened .... I posted and my comments disappeared. Lets try this again.....
We all have heard of people who are lactose intolerant or have allergies to something. Maybe Jason has a bad reaction to his implants where the others do not. Something that would affect only him.
You are correct it would be a fun story line to decide if it could be fatal or if the implant could be (would be) replaced.
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Posted by amethyst on 27-10-2009 at 22:39:
Ebony, yes, is possible to function for years with a benign brain tumor, depending upon size or location. Malignant tumors are a different story, as they usually grow more than benign tumors and can spread to other parts of the body.
Becky, when reading Cath's story I didn't get the impression that she was trying to parallel Gatch in any way, but then I haven't seen but a handfull of Gatch II episodes, and just the animation at that. What she seemed to be doing was expanding on the unknown, by creating in-depth backgrounds for the characters, and expanding on the story-line from the end. It is a true AU, as not everything is canon compliant, and what is, is tweaked.
Thank you both for thoughts on the kids; fortunately motrin or advil seem to work for both of them. My daughter has zero pain tolerance, and my son's is like mine and way to high.
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Posted by Becky Rock on 27-10-2009 at 23:27:
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I started getting migraines when I was in my teens, but my younger brother started getting them when he was 7. Over time, my tolerance for the pain has decreased and I now take something the moment I feel it coming on. I used to get the vision distortions but don't anymore. We have no idea of why. While most doctors will tell a migraines sufferer to stay away from caffeine, I find caffeine helps. I'm just weird.
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Posted by Becky Rock on 27-10-2009 at 23:36:
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I believe Catherine may have the only fic besides Leap of Faith (at least of the ones I've read) that has Mark suffering from a problem that forces him to leave the team. It just made me think of what was happening to Ken in Gatch F.
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Posted by amethyst on 27-10-2009 at 23:40:
What scared me with my son was him coming from school complaining about his vision blurring to black and then to blurry during P.E. That was his concern too, as I had to ask him if there was anything else, the headache was secondary. I think before this, he may have complained three times in his life about a headache. My duaghter's complained about them since about 5 or 6 and shuts down completely with them and has no findable triggers.
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 28-10-2009 at 21:56:
Those sound like migraines. They should be checked out, just in case. The headaches could be a symptom of larger problem.
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Posted by gatchgirl on 29-10-2009 at 03:34:
I love these debates. With myself, I tend to mix the two worlds, taking the things I like (angst etc.) from both and combining them.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 29-10-2009 at 08:27:
It's endless really the possibilities! I always wanted to do a combined universe, just didn't expect it to get so big!!!
CD's universe has some interesting things happening in it, I'm not sure how she planned to tackle Jasons illness.
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Posted by Becky Rock on 29-10-2009 at 20:23:
I was wondering last night why we give Jason such a rough time and I think its because of all of the members of the team, we think he's the most likely to persevere.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 30-10-2009 at 00:55:
Well they did have to fit their plotlines in with the Gatchaman animations! Joe was very angsty, but I think they tried to 'lighten' Jason's character a bit. But it would have been hard to aviod the illness part, so they had to do something with it, but make it more low key.
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