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Posted by Metaliant on 14-09-2009 at 19:58:

Battlestar Galactica - The Movie

Found this on the BSG Wiki page.

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Posted by amethyst on 14-09-2009 at 21:27:

Unless they go back to the original characters, it just doesn't matter. I can live with new actors, but. . .

STARBUCK IS NOT A WOMAN!

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Posted by lborgia88 on 14-09-2009 at 23:16:

Hmm, interesting. If it's a good story, I think I can enjoy it no matter if it's based on the original BSG, the newer version or something else entirely. I guess I always thought of the new BSG as pretty much an entirely different show than the original, rather than a remake -it was just too different to seem like a remake. Can you imagine a Gatchaman movie where Joe is changed to a female character? Laugh1

Maybe I shouldn't even speak of such a thing... Erm2


Posted by amethyst on 15-09-2009 at 00:07:

Please lb, don't! Which I think is what got to me about the new Battlestar: They kept the premise, kept the names, and then changed a very important character. The Cylons, you do whatever you want to make them more fearsome, but don't change the characters genders. If they wanted to create more female fighter pilots, they had several as the story progressed, they could have brought one of them to a more important role, created a whole new character, or even changed a minor character and expanded the role.

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Posted by Metaliant on 16-09-2009 at 21:19:

When I read about the new BSG and saw that Starbuck was basically a blondle, I thought "Oh f^^k.) but after watching couple of episodes of it on DVD and Sky Three, I decided that I couldn't compare it with the original which I still love and prefer to the new one.

I still have several problems with the new one (couple of them are the same problems I have with the original), but overall I am please with what they did, even in making Starbuck a woman.

I thought it was good that the names of the charactors had proper first and family names like Kara Thrace for example and kept Apollo and Starbuck as fighter pilot nicknames.

But I will admit something about Kara Thrace. She's better looking thatn the original Starbuck and I would consider her a babe. But that's just me.
Oh by the way, Starbuck isn't the only charactor that they have changed sex with, as they did it with Boomer as well, and they made her into a Cylon as well.

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Posted by amethyst on 16-09-2009 at 23:15:

I can see Boomer with a gender change (but not into a Cylon, that's just too Borgish) or his wingman (sorry can't remember that characters name), but Starbuck was my favorite, and at the time there were few men hotter than him (Jason, or Joe, being one of them). Heck, I even got into the A-Team because Dirk Benedict was in it, and he played a similar style character, but the Faceman rates lower than Starbuck.

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Posted by Metaliant on 17-09-2009 at 21:48:

In the original series, Boomer was a black man who became Colonel and second in command of the colonial fleet in the spin off series Galacita 1980. In the new BSG, Boomer was an orinental young lady who was a newbie pilot.

That was slightly more freaky for me than having Starbuck being a lovely blondle, who smoked, drank and gambled as much as the original Starbuck.

I don't suppose you notice Amethy, that in the opening credits of the A- Team, you had a Cylon walking past Faceman. I thought that was bit funny and tried to imagined what would have happened if Faceman was dressed as Starbuck.

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Posted by clouddancer on 18-09-2009 at 01:17:

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Originally posted by Metaliant in the opening credits of the A- Team, you had a Cylon walking past Faceman. I thought that was bit funny and tried to imagined what would have happened if Faceman was dressed as Starbuck.


have you seen that eps of the A-Team Met? In the show the Cylon walks past, Faceman turns to it saying something like ... "Don't I know you from somewhere?" Then he shrugs and waves his hand, kind of saying "Nahhhh, I must be wrong." Or maybe that shows up in the opening credits as well.

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Posted by amethyst on 18-09-2009 at 02:41:

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Originally posted by Metaliant in the opening credits of the A- Team, you had a Cylon walking past Faceman. I thought that was bit funny and tried to imagined what would have happened if Faceman was dressed as Starbuck.


have you seen that eps of the A-Team Met? In the show the Cylon walks past, Faceman turns to it saying something like ... "Don't I know you from somewhere?" Then he shrugs and waves his hand, kind of saying "Nahhhh, I must be wrong." Or maybe that shows up in the opening credits as well.


It was an episode, too, but I can't remember which. But I loved that moment. It was exactly as you've described it, CD. I loved the look on his face.

Met, I barely remember the sequel. Only watched a few episodes; the magic just didn't seem to be there.

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Posted by Metaliant on 19-09-2009 at 08:23:

In the sequal, in the very last episode, you actually get to see Starbuck crash on a planet, fixes a Cylon who became his friend.

You are also right that the magic wasn't there, which is a pity.

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Posted by gogirl212 on 19-09-2009 at 16:09:

this may seem out of context, but I am working on a "re-imagining" of a rather well-known dance piece from the 80s. We are keeping the choreography intact, and the original inspirations, but re-inventing the look, the technology and the visual impact of the dance. We are even using more women then in the original piece and are changing around key phrases of the dance. Yet, it is still a Trisha Brown composition and still her work.

I think of the updates of things like BSG or Star Trek in the same way - not re-doing or improving or recreating, but re-imagining what it might be had the work been created in the present day. Granted, sometimes they miss the mark, but I when then are good stories and characters I can enjoy it and give it its own place beside the original.

ps - I love Dirk Benedict. Forever and forever.

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