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Posted by amethyst on 10-08-2009 at 15:22:
Ken's Mom?
I've tried to look around but can't find what I need:
1. Does she have a name in Canon? If so is it given in Gatch I, II, or F?
2. Does it ever say in any of the series exactly what her illness was or just that she was frail and mostly bedridden?
A big thanks to anyone who can help me out with this.
Ame
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Posted by Springie on 10-08-2009 at 15:35:
Ken's mother's name is Sayuri Washio...not sure exactly what illness she suffered from, though...
I thought I had a better picture of her somewhere...but here is one I found...she appears to be a redhead...
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Posted by amethyst on 10-08-2009 at 15:47:
Thanks Springie! I've seen Sayuri but wasn't sure if that was Canon or Fanon, but the name definitely seems to fit.
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Posted by Firebird on 10-08-2009 at 16:05:
Springie where is the pic from? What episode I mean
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Posted by Springie on 10-08-2009 at 16:12:
That's either from episode 51- Cataroller or 52- Red Impulse's Secret...I can't remember which...but it is shown when Ken is sleeping on the couch in RI's cabin, and RI is remembering when Ken is a boy...
Oh, and Amethyst- I can't remember if the name Sayuri is mentioned in Gatch I- but I think that it is...by Dr. Nambu- someone correct me if I'm wrong...
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Posted by amethyst on 10-08-2009 at 16:59:
It's episode 51.
And thanks again, for the name information. It might be in one of the Gatch I episodes that I haven't seen yet. I've seen all of the BotP's but only about 3/4 of Gatch I, none of II, F, or ER.
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Posted by tatsunokofan on 10-08-2009 at 17:39:
Hi all!
In the series, it is never said what Ken's mother's name was. Likewise, exactly what illness claimed her life is also not stated.
The only images we have of her are as follows:
From Episode #51:
From Episode #52:
From Episode #53:
The name Sayuri comes from Volume 2 of the OAVs, and is seen on her tombstone.
We do not see any images of what she looks like. Many fans have chosen to use this name for her TV series counterpart, but to do so is strictly a fan-made convenience.
James
Posted by amethyst on 10-08-2009 at 19:09:
Thanks James! Considering they kept most (but not all) of the names for the OAVs (from what I've heard and seen, I'm just now watching them), it does make sense to adopt it into fanon.
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Posted by Springie on 10-08-2009 at 19:21:
James to the rescue!! Thank you, James!! I couldn't remember if her name was actually mentioned! And I had no idea that the name Sayuri wasn't official, except for the OAV! And you had the picture I was looking for ( of course)...this is some great info!
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 12-08-2009 at 09:40:
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Springie, was that just in the OVA's??? I can't remember them actually saying a name for her during Gatchaman. If they did what ep was that???
Ahhh I should have read James response before automatically posting!!!
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 24-08-2009 at 10:43:
James, I am always amazed by the ready knowledge at your fingertips... although by now I guess I shouldn't be. 
Thanks for all of the pictures and information. I had heard of Ken's mother being Sayuri,but had never known where the name came from. I appreciate that bit of knowldge4.
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 10-09-2009 at 00:18:
Since I didn't know where 'Sayuri' came from, I came up with my own name for my fanfics. I wanted to explain Ken's blue eyes and Caucasian appearance, so I made her a Caucasian from Ameris, and Kentaro part-Japanese. Eileen Washio, employed by the ISO as an aircraft engineer.
The perpetually-frail mother is such a flipping stereotype that I also ignored it. She does die of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. Cancer is used so often that it's becoming another stereotype.
There are plenty of long-term medical conditions that could make a person seem frail and/or helpless, particularly to a child. This would be especially true if the condition got worse over time.
So far, no-one has complained.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 10-09-2009 at 01:13:
And there's no reason to compl;ain, becfause your fics are excellent reading, UW! 
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Posted by clouddancer on 10-09-2009 at 01:20:
Interesting points UW. It gives me something to consider in my AU. I may need to make a little change.
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 10-09-2009 at 23:42:
I better get that high-speed internet connection. I'm running out of time at night. (No computer required for my day job, so I don't have one at work.) Gotta read your Gatch fics.
I noticed that the OAV dates for Sayuri are close to my time-period for 'Gatchaman.' The Turtle King pops up in the 2040s, in mine.
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Posted by gatchgirl on 11-09-2009 at 00:50:
Reading the tombstone, I see that Ken's mom has the same birthday as me. Glad to see someone from Gatch does, even if she's dead before the series. Plus with that we can better understand the time frame as to when the battle started. 
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Posted by clouddancer on 11-09-2009 at 00:55:
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Just in case this comment was being sent to me, I wanted to let you know my AU is really based on BOTP rather than on Gatch. Although my characters seem to have closer characteristics (the edginess and darkness) of the Gatch team.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 11-09-2009 at 00:57:
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The one time it came up (briefly, from young Ken's POV) in a fic of mine, I did a cop-out and never specified exactly what illness she had at all. Kudos to you for coming up with a more original diagnosis! The other area, it seems, where canon is vague concerning Ken's mother is figuring out when Ken started living at Dr. Nambu's house instead of with his mother. Before she died and before Joe was there? Not until after she'd died? It can easily be interpreted either way.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 11-09-2009 at 01:00:
I believe when Dr. Nambu is revealing Red Impulse's identity asKentaro Washio to the SNT, Nambu mentions that Kentaro left for Hontwal, leaving his four year old son in Nambu's care.
But of course, what is 'Nambu's care'? Again, it could be interpreted many ways, but it seems to imply that Ken might have been living with Nambu after that time. Perhaps Sayuri too.
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 11-09-2009 at 02:21:
Good old 1970s, when people could still assume a wife didn't have a job.
Just a few decades later, nobody makes that assumption, and Dr. Nambu could care for Ken without them moving in with him.
BTW, Eileen kept Kentaro circling the tower for quite a while. Kentaro Air Flight #1 didn't reach the hangar until the wedding night!
Based on the pictures, I think Ken inherited his mother's hair.
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