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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 26-02-2009 at 08:14:
Which Condor would you chose?
Of all the Condor's in the Gatchaman, BOTP, Eagle Riders, G-Force (or any version I've missed here.)
Would you chose to take over the team if the Eagle wasn't able to do it because of injuries or death.
And which one do you think would be the most reckless and potentially be a danger to tearing apart the team...
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 26-02-2009 at 13:44:
I suspect Jason is the most level-headed, but his reluctance to kill anyone (a la BOTP) might be an issue.
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Posted by shamrokchick on 26-02-2009 at 14:13:
I think I would choose original Joe over the others. The Swan could keep him from firing so many bird missiles.
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Posted by meridianday on 26-02-2009 at 14:17:
I think Joe Thax is the calmest, and so might do the best job of leading. Maybe.
OAV Joe for the most chaotic - never much of a team player, let alone a team leader.
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Posted by veritas on 26-02-2009 at 14:51:
Original Joe, I think he'd take the responsibilty well but I agree with you about OAV Joe, loose cannon.
Posted by tatsunokofan on 26-02-2009 at 17:15:
Hi all!
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I suspect Jason is the most level-headed, but his reluctance to kill anyone (a la BOTP) might be an issue. |
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If that were an issue, then Mark wasn't a good leader, and Princess, Keyop, and Tiny wouldn't make good leaders either. If Jason was being tapped to replace an incapacitated Mark as the leader of G-Force, then he'd probably be fine.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 26-02-2009 at 19:24:
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Originally posted by Transmute Jun
I suspect Jason is the most level-headed |
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But Zark says he's "hot-headed" -surely you don't think Zark could be wrong?
When it comes to (non-OAV) Joe, I think it might make a difference whether it's Gatch I, Gatch II or Gatch F Joe. Gatch II Joe seems to have a bit less of a temper than Gatch I Joe, and I hear that in Gatch F, he's pretty calm and Ken is the one going off the rails. Now I know virtually nothing about Dirk Daring, and my memories of Jason are a bit scanty, so I think I'd pick Gatch II Joe (or Joe Thax, who's nearly the same) to lead the team in Ken's absence.
I agree with Meridianday that OAV Joe is likely the worst Condor for this.
As for the
Posted by Transmute Jun on 26-02-2009 at 20:07:
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Originally posted by tatsunokofan
If that were an issue, then Mark wasn't a good leader, and Princess, Keyop, and Tiny wouldn't make good leaders either. If Jason was being tapped to replace an incapacitated Mark as the leader of G-Force, then he'd probably be fine. |
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Fair point. On that score, he'd probably make a good leader for the Science Ninja team Gatchapin as well.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 26-02-2009 at 20:09:
[quote]Originally posted by lborgia88
I think I'd pick Gatch II Joe (or Joe Thax, who's nearly the same) quote]
*snicker*
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Posted by lborgia88 on 26-02-2009 at 20:33:
In my defense, I'll admit I've been watching a lot of Gatch II eps lately (for a fic) and Gatch II Joe is growing on me more than I thought he would -and he's got the whole "indestructible" cyborg thing going for him.
He's not my favourite Joe, though. That'll always be Gatch I Joe.
And Joe Thax... well, also a cyborg, and he benefits by virtue of not being Hunter, or not sounding like Hunter.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 26-02-2009 at 21:03:
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Originally posted by lborgia88
And Joe Thax... well, also a cyborg, and he benefits by virtue of not being Hunter, or not sounding like Hunter. |
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Hear, hear!
And it seems that Kelly would agree with you...
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 26-02-2009 at 22:02:
Didn't Jason have a chance at being the team leader in one ep and then blew it?
Mmmm I think from what I've seen of ER Joe Thax is more level headed than trigger happy revengeful Joe Asakura.
But do like the way Joe Asakura is so cool at times...
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Posted by amyltrer on 27-02-2009 at 21:00:
I go for the original Joe. The cyborg version. He was reckless in the first Gatch, but with his improvements Joe become unstoppable!
I think him alone would have been able to wipe out a Gallactor base with bare hands!
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Posted by Barrdwing on 02-03-2009 at 00:52:
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Originally posted by Ebonyswanne
Didn't Jason have a chance at being the team leader in one ep and then blew it? |
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There was a scene in "The Awesome Armadillo" where Jason was in a rotten mood and sniped at Mark regarding a weapon that Jason thought should have been made standard equipment on the
Phoenix (with the implication that Mark had disagreed regarding the usefulness of that weapon). Mark faced him down, reminding Jason that "every team needs a leader". Whereupon Jason turned the tables on Mark by saying that he didn't
want to lead the team (rather than saying he could lead better than Mark). It left Mark with no possible response; Mark got really ticked and stormed out of the room.
I always liked this scene because it was such a departure from Jason's more usual "I'd be a better team leader than Mark any day of the week" attitude. It suggested either a change of heart on Jason's part . . . or Jason finding a diabolical new way to drive Mark straight up the wall. Either one has story potential.
Posted by Ebonyswanne on 02-03-2009 at 03:27:
Too right there!!! Its one of my fave scenes too, its one that stuck in my mind from childhood.
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Posted by Condorfan on 02-03-2009 at 16:36:
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Originally posted by Ebonyswanne
Mmmm I think from what I've seen of ER Joe Thax is more level headed than trigger happy revengeful Joe Asakura.
But do like the way Joe Asakura is so cool at times... |
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ITA Ebony! Asakura does have that coolness factor. But personally from what I've seen of ER Joe Thax seems more level headed (not to mention that Kelly seems a lot more interested in him than Hunter..
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 02-03-2009 at 18:14:
Kelly isn't interested in Hunter at all until he's dying from the Phase Foil effects...
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Posted by gatchgirl on 03-03-2009 at 00:31:
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Didn't Jason have a chance at being the team leader in one ep and then blew it? |
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There was a scene in "The Awesome Armadillo" where Jason was in a rotten mood and sniped at Mark regarding a weapon that Jason thought should have been made standard equipment on the Phoenix (with the implication that Mark had disagreed regarding the usefulness of that weapon). Mark faced him down, reminding Jason that "every team needs a leader". Whereupon Jason turned the tables on Mark by saying that he didn't want to lead the team (rather than saying he could lead better than Mark). It left Mark with no possible response; Mark got really ticked and stormed out of the room.
I always liked this scene because it was such a departure from Jason's more usual "I'd be a better team leader than Mark any day of the week" attitude. It suggested either a change of heart on Jason's part . . . or Jason finding a diabolical new way to drive Mark straight up the wall. Either one has story potential. |
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OK, now you have me wanting to pull out my BOTP episodes instead of the tv shows I watch.
= me watching any version of the Condor.
FWIW, I would have to say the original Condor.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 03-03-2009 at 08:26:
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Originally posted by Transmute Jun
Kelly isn't interested in Hunter at all until he's dying from the Phase Foil effects... |
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Very true in that series i don't blame her for liking the Condor more.
All these years later when
i first watched the BOTP version of the jiglokillers I felt there was something missing from it. I didn't have the same impact as it did when I was a kid. (I suppose thats natural.) Then I watched the Gatchaman version and it fitted more...
A few of the other eps are like that.
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