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Posted by Metaliant on 13-09-2008 at 12:57:
Bad sportspersonship
As most if not all of you know from my Paralympic thread in the General Discussion section, I have put on a link to the BBC coverage of the games.
Well 9 am in China, the USA wheelchair basketball team were going to play Iran int he quarter finals, however they won 20 - 0 in a second and are through to play in the semi-final.
Now, I know what you think, how on earth did the US team won 20 - 0 in a second? Well here what appears happened......
In yesterdays quarter final, Israel beat Canads (sorry to our Canadain friends) and are through tot he semi finals. Now IF Iran beat the US in this mornings quarter final, then they would have played Israel.....However, they never turned up and so when the match finally started, the US won 20 - 0 automatically and are through automatically to the semi final agaisnt Israel.
Now, here's where it gets a tiny bit sticky, when the IPC wheelchair basketball officals spoke to the Iranians, they were told that Iran withdrew not because they didn't want to play Israel as they don't recognise the country but because of the scheduling. They also said that they wanted or thought that they wanted/were playing at 11.15 and therefore never went tot he 9 am one.
This is very sad as the other countries that lost out all thre way tot he beginning of the matches leading to the Paralympics and during the matches during the Paralympics are losing out the chance to get a medal.
Anyway that's my rant and I just think the excuse is very weak and there could be trouble in the future and it just a very bad sportspersonship for people to do this for an extrememly feeble excuse.
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Posted by shamrokchick on 13-09-2008 at 14:04:
RE: Bad sportspersonship
Yeah it's a pretty crappy excuse... but I'm not surprised that the Iranians didn't want to play the Israelis.
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Posted by Metaliant on 13-09-2008 at 14:45:
Well now it seems that several IPC (International Paralympic Committee) officals aren't doing a good job. Last week, there was a terribal crash during a wheelchair race and after a complaint (forgotten who) from somebody, they had to re-run the race on Friday and everybody had to gand back their medals.
NOW, a similar thing happened again. During the final of another wheelchair race, GB's hopeful David Weir finally won his first gold medal, the Aussie's complained, saying that their man was in the wrong lane (and coming second).
NOW, they complained AFTER the race and the officals are saying the race has to re-run on Tuesday or Wednesday.
I think I am starting to be pissed off about all of these incompentent officals and bad sportspersonship.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 13-09-2008 at 14:50:
Were the Iranians so certain that they would win if they played the US, or were they simply taking no chances with regard to having to play Israel? It does all sound extremely fishy, and unsportsmanlike. I would like to think that maybe the decision was made by Iranian officials or coaches, and not by the athletes themselves.
Posted by Metaliant on 13-09-2008 at 16:17:
Who knows. All I know is that the Irainian officals are saying that it was all about the schedule and they thought they should play at 11.15 am and not 9 am.
As you said, the excuse is a bit fishy and probably smells like a fish as well.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 14-09-2008 at 07:17:
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IKWYM... but honesty get over yourselves! This is a major sporting event. I grow tired of countries doing boycotts like that at the Olympic games. It is poor sportsman ship.
(Shamrock, I"m not having a go at you or your comment, I thought I"d let you know just in case.)
As for the Aussie incident...They should have said they couldn't re-run the race. I have heard them doing that a lot at these Para-olympics. I hope the reasoning was sound enough to do so and not just because they complained. The poor athlete that won, it must have been a blow.
Did he win his gold for GB again Met???
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Posted by Metaliant on 14-09-2008 at 12:04:
I just heard this morning that the Aussie team withdrawn their protest and therefore the race won't be re-run and David Weir, the Aussie athlete who came 2nd and the other athlete (didn't bother seeing who it was, sorry) will ge their medals later.
It seems that it was the team and not the athlete, a certain Mr Finley who made the protest straight after the race, where there were 2 lists of the lineup of the race and the athletes were put in another starting lineup different to the 2 lists. However, it wasn't Mr Finley who complaint and as soon as he heard about the protest, he convinced the head coach that he wanted the complaint withdrawn.
This is the 2nd bit of trouble that happened in the wheelchair racing, as earlier this week, there was a crash in a women's final race, but there was complaints from the Swiss and 2 other countries because if there wasn't the crash, then the result would be different.
So that race was re-run but with 7 people instead of the usual 8 as the Swiss athlete who caused the crash had a broken collarbone and therefore disqualified. All I know is that the GB athlete who came 2nd original came 3rd the second time around but she didn't cacre as long as she won a medal.
NOW, that's what I call a good sportspersonship.
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Posted by shamrokchick on 14-09-2008 at 13:21:
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Oh I understand... and I've never heard of so many races having to be rerun... or maybe it's just me?
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Posted by Metaliant on 14-09-2008 at 15:52:
I have never heard so many incidents at the Paralympics before though in saying that, the BBC's coverage wasn't so much or even live.
Apparently a GB athlete who was classified once, was given another classification by the IPC (International Paralympic Committee), (classification is used for disabled people, the lover classification the more severe disability, while the higher one is for people with less severe disabilities and therefore to make sure, not always, the events are fair), and she came a shot put event and came in second in a discus event.
But it seems that the Paralympic people who are involved with choosing whatever the classifications for the athletes, decided that, with the discus event, the teenager shouldn't have been in that event and took her medal away. And it seems that now, she's been told, that she can't compete in any Paralympics again, as she's not disabled enough.
And when she thought at the time she won the silver medal and tried to shake hands with an Aussie (No offence to our Aussie friends in here) athlete, she was shunned and when it was her turn in the event, there were chants of Cheat from people.
Sorry about these little rants, but this Paralympics to me seem like a (excuse the pun) runnying joke and as a disabled person who has done a bit of Judo and Karate competitions in the past, I find that certain people just don't have the mental capacity for good sportpersonship.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 14-09-2008 at 22:12:
It looks like Sportsman ship has gone down the toilet at these para-olympics.
That's OK Met, I know your not having a go at the Aussies.(I know its not personal) We're likely to have a go at our own if we see bad sportsmanship happening in our own team.
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Posted by Metaliant on 14-09-2008 at 22:49:
Shakes head in amazement. "You may have heard stories about disabled people being discriminated because of their disability but I have just read an article about an Aussie athlete who was discrinminated because she could she better than the classification allowed her to be.
Confused? So am I. But it does seem that although she's partially sighted, she has more sighted in one eye than the Paralympics allow.
So, now the thing is that able bodied (I hate that term) people or rather disabled people who are more able bodied than the Paralympians are being discriminated.
I am still amazed and can't thing of any words except for amazed to describe how I feel now."
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 15-09-2008 at 00:32:
I used to ride a bike around Parramatta Park... there is a bloody big hill that goes on forever.
Anyway to make a long story short.... I was huffing and puffing up the hill to hear someone yelling at the person behind me... (his coach) I looked beside me to see a wheelchair athlete overtaking me! He was in training for a major race...
Man was he fit...and the biceps on his arms!!! He had no gears on his wheelchair, and I could see his attitude matched his efforts. I didn't internally complain for rest of the time i was in the park about how much I hurt from the effort of riding up that hill.
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Posted by Metaliant on 15-09-2008 at 15:00:
Bet you were glad when you were going downhill.
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