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Posted by Rory on 03-05-2008 at 21:22:
[SPOILERS]: Questions Re Gatchaman Fighter
Just wanted to ask a few questions to those who have watched Gatchaman Fighter (not Eagle Riders) since I'm presently writing a very long fic that focuses after this series. Since the questions/answers might be spoilers, I decided to put a "Spoiler" tag in the Subject box.
1) Where exactly is Egobossler's base located? Could someone give me an idea what it looks like?
2) Was Sosai Z also hiding in above mentioned base?
3) Did the final battle between the KNT and Egobossler/Sosai Z occur in this base?
4) Who is this Dr. Kamo guy? Was he the one who took over the ISO after the demise of Nambu?
5) What was that mysterious necklace that Nambu gave Ken? Were its origins actually explained in the series?
6) Could someone please describe to me exactly what happened to the KNT in the very last scenes after Nambu's spirit appeared to Ken? No, I don't need opinions about whether they died or not. I just want to have a very clear picture of what happened. I've seen the screencaps, but I prefer a blow-by-blow account.
I hope someone would be able to help me with this.
Sincerely,
Rory
Posted by tatsunokofan on 04-05-2008 at 01:28:
Hi all!
Okay, here are some brief answers. Brief mostly because I don't have a whole lot of time to spare right now (Hey, cut me some slack. It's my anniversary and my wife and I have dinner plans).
1. Egobossler's base is originally located in Satanforhen. When shown on a map, this appears to be approximately where Berlin is in our world. Satanforhen was destroyed in Gatchaman Fighter #'s 14 and 15. At the end of Gatchaman Fighter #15, Governor Z builds a duplicate of Satanforhen underground in Iberia (The Gatchaman Fighter equivilent of Siberia). This new location is named Gallatown. Gallatown is destroyed in Gatchaman Fighter #43. Governor Z then rebuilds the Gallatown (Though in a far more mechanical form than the original rustic look it once had) inside a cavern in a desert in Ameris. As far as we are shown, this location remains undamaged when the series ends.
The exact look of Satanforhern and the original Gallatown wasn't always a concrete thing. Some times it looked something like a stereotypical small European town, while other times it looked more like a modern small town. Far more consistent was the general layout of the place, which included the city surrounding a hill in the center of town. On top of the hill was Egobossler's castle, which looked like a stereotypical European castle.
The later Gallatown had the same basic layout as the original, but looked like it was made entirely of mechanical pieces. Not exactly homey, though Egobossler's new castle looked essentially the same as the original.
2. No, though he could teleport himself at will, and could pop in floating above any of these locations whenever he wished.
3. No, it did not.
4. Kamo is not a Doctor. He is the Chief Engineeer of the I.S.O., and he does not take control of the I.S.O. after Nambu is killed. Exactly who does take over as Director is not revealed.
5. The pendant was something that Nambu had left with Kamo with instructions to give it to Ken and the others when things looked their worst, as a personal momento of his for them to carry with them. Kamo gave it to them before they left on their final mission in Gatchaman Fighter #47.
6. Sadly, this question requires a much longer answer than I have time for right now.
I hope this helps!
James
Posted by Springie on 04-05-2008 at 01:30:
Happy Anniversary James!
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Posted by clouddancer on 04-05-2008 at 01:42:
Thank you for your help James
Happy Anniversary!!
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 04-05-2008 at 01:44:
Somehow, I knew James would have all of the answers! 
I hope you have a wonderful anniversary, James!
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Posted by amyltrer on 04-05-2008 at 17:34:
Sorry Rorry, I have no idea how could I've missed this thread.... 
I see James was kind to give you the answers.
Are you writting a Gatch F fic? With Ego in it? Oh boy, oh boy!
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Here's the translations fthe final 2 eps from Fighter, as I've found them on BotO groups, made by Alara Rogers:
Gatchaman Fighter #47-48
-Prologue: from Gatchaman F, ep. #46 "G-1's Desperate High-Power"
-Egobossler is speaking to Overlord Z in his study.
- EGO: Overlord Z, why have you launched a mecha and proclaimed the
destruction of the Earth without consulting me?
- Z: That's none of your business. You don't command me!
- EGO: What do you mean? I'm the leader of Galactor!
- Z: So tell me, leader of Galactor, why haven't you been able to
-kill a single man? Why haven't you killed Gatchaman yet? And how is it that
-he has almost killed you? You're not worthy to be the leader of Galactor!
-So it's only proper that I should take the power away from you!
- EGO: *What??*
- Z: In 26 hours, the antimatter asteroid will strike the Earth!
- EGO: Wh-- Overlord, what's the key?! Tell me how do we stop it!
- Z: You *can't!* There is no key!! HAHAHAHA!! (vanishes)
- EGO: (shellshocked) No key--- that can't be! That's *insane!* You
-*promised*-- That's-- that's *insane!!* Insane... YOU LIED TO ME, Z!!
-Script: Gatchaman F, eps. #47 & #48 "Earth Destruction 3,2,1" and "Eternal
-Gatchaman"
-Earth Destruction 3,2,1
- NARRATOR: Realizing that something was guiding the antimatter
-asteroid in, Gatchaman powered up the Gatchaspartan without hesitation,
-despite his own condition-- the deterioration of his cells. But now if he
-uses the Hypersuit this time, he will definitely die. And the Earth will be
-destroyed in 16 hours. A demon from space is slowly swallowing up Earth and
-its human people, and it looks like the Earth will soon meet its end.
-
-Aboard the Gatchaspartan, heading into space, Ken holds Director Nambu's
-pendant.
-
- KEN: Director Nambu...
-
-In a flashback to before they launched, they are at their base, and Kamo is
-talking to them.
-
- KAMO: As you know, this antimatter asteroid is now bigger and
-heavier. There's no comparison to the way it was before-- there's no way we
-can destroy the whole thing.
- KEN: So what *can* we do?
- KAMO: We must change its orbital pattern so it doesn't intersect
-with the Earth's. And we can do that by destroying 3 of the tractor beams
-towing it in.
- KEN: I see. We destroy three of the beams, and we send it off-balance.
- MAIN FROM UN: We'll only get one chance.
- JOE: One chance'll be enough. They're not playing games anymore--
-it's come to a matter of life or death. Earth's fate's what's at stake.
- KAMO: Gatchaman, this is our last chance!
- UN MAN: We have only three meteor-destroying missiles. Gatchaman,
-it's all up to your bravery now.
- JOE: Not bravery.
- UN MAN: Huh?
- JOE: I have to say one thing: it's not bravery that'll win this
-for us. It'll be anger and hatred against Galactor.
- KEN: Joe!
- JOE: Let's get going, Ken!
- KEN: Right!
- KAMO: Gatchaman, I have something for you. (hands him the pendant)
-This was willed to you from Director Nambu.
- KEN: Director Nambu?
- JUN: What is it?
- KAMO: I thought there might be some important secret hidden in
-this, but I couldn't find anything. I don't know what you're supposed to
-use this for. The five corners symbolize the five of you. The Director said
-that if he were to die, I was to give this to you.
- KEN: Director Nambu...
- KAMO: The Science Ninja Team are five in one, five people united
-as one. You must not lose even one member of that unity. All of you, come
-back together.
- KEN: We understand.
- UN MAN: It's in your hands now, Science Ninja Team.
- ALL: Roger!
-
-Joe walks away.
-
- JUN: Joe...
-
-The flashback ends.
-
- KAMO: Antimatter asteroid approaching!
- JINPEI: It's *huge*...
- KEN: Ready the meteor-destroying missiles! Fire!
- RYU: Roger!
- KEN: All right, start the attack!
- JUN: Joe...
- KEN: Fire the Spartan Laser!
- JUN: Joe...
- KEN: Joe, there's 3 in front. Can you hit them?
- JOE: Don't worry about me. I'll take care of them.
- JUN: Joe...
- JOE: All right, *now!*
-
-The missiles hit the tractor beam generators and destroy them.
-
- JINPEI: All *right!* We did it!
- RYU: We really did it!
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-At this point, the magnetic barrier around the antimatter asteroid hits the
-Gatchaspartan.
- JOE: Ken!
- KEN: What-- what the *hell--*
-
-Around him, everyone is collapsing, but Ken has eyes for only one.
-
- KEN: Jun! *Jun! JUN!!*
- Z's VOICE: Now you're trapped, Science Ninja Team. It's too late
-for humanity to avoid its fate. The victory is mine. In 12 hours-- in just
-12 hours...
-
-A boat near Overlord Z. Egobossler stands on its surface, with some of his
-men, including Mechandor.
-
- Z: Egobossler, you and Galactor have finished your part.
- EGO: I salute your work, Overlord Z. You really prepared this
-project of yours well. The whole time you were keeping Gatchaman occupied
-with us, you were guiding the antimatter asteroid in.
- Z: Does that upset you, Egobossler?
- EGO: No. I've gotten over being angry at my own stupidity, and now
-I just can't feel much of anything. I don't much care if the Earth dies or
-not anymore. But as I have always wanted to conquer the Earth, I think I
-have the right, now, to see its end.
- Z: Very well, I grant you the favor as a last request. You may
-come aboard and watch Earth's fate.
- EGO (thinking) {Overlord Z, Egobossler is not a man to run away
-with his tail between his legs. The Earth was almost in my hands-- I won't
-let you do as you like with it! Watch! I may surprise you...}
-
-Aboard Gatchaspartan.
-
- JUN: Ken, hang on...
- KEN: Jun! What's the situation with the Earth?
- JUN: We were hit by the barrier around the antimatter asteroid.
-Fortunately, we didn't lose anybody....
- RYU (shaking Jinpei) You're not hurt, Jinpei! You're not really
-hurt! Really! Wake up!
- KEN: I see.
- JOE: It's still doing it, Ken! The antimatter asteroid's still
-headed straight for Earth!
- KEN: Shit! All right, I'm using the Ultra Hypersuit!
- JUN: But, Ken--! If you do---!
- KEN: Which is more important? One person's life, or all humanity?
-I shouldn't have to spell it out for you!
- JUN: {Ken, you said we would all die together when we die... Why?
-Why do you have to go and die alone?} (1)
- KEN: {I remember my promise. But our plan failed. It's my
-responsibility-- and I want to be sure the four of you stay alive...}
- JOE: No, Ken! You don't have to do this! Ken, I've already died
-once anyway. I should be the one to go destroy the antimatter asteroid.
- JUN: Joe!
- KEN: Joe! I'm the leader of the Science Ninja Team! It's my duty!
- JOE: I don't give a damn about you being leader!
- KEN: {Joe, the war with Galactor's taken your loves, your parents,
-your human body. You've lost too much already, Joe. It's my turn now.}
- JOE: {Ken, you know I hate Galactor and Overlord Z. I hate them
-more than anything. But right now, they don't matter to me. All I care
-about is you and Jun. I don't want to see you die. Let me go!}
- KEN: {No, I won't!}
- JUN: (screams) Ken, *no! *
-
-Ken and Joe are facing off against each other with shuriken and fencer.
-
- JOE: We don't have time to stand around and talk! Now move!
- KEN: If you want to go, Joe, you have to do it over my dead body!
- JOE: Huh! You really want to fight me?
- KEN: Yeah. That's right, Joe. You're trying to get yourself
-killed. But it's too easy to solve your problems by tossing your life away.
-I've got a chance of surviving-- you don't!
- JOE: Ken...
- RYU: Stop it! This is no time to fight each other!
- JINPEI: Yeah! It looks like there's strings pulling the asteroid
-to Earth!
- JOE: Strings? Pulling the asteroid?
- KEN: It must be Overlord Z, controlling it! How could we be so
- blind?
- JOE: The "strings"'ve gotta be the Cosmic Pulse. That's why
-Director Nambu was so worried about it. Jinpei, you're a genius.
- JINPEI: Me, a genius?
- KEN: Yeah, a genius of geniuses!
- JOE: Ken, let's go!
- KEN: Right!
-
-Inside Z's body, Egobossler and his men prepare to do battle.
-
- EGO: All right, follow me! Z's body may be large, but its brain's
-likely to be enclosed in a small chamber! Be careful!
- GALACTORS: Yes, sir!
-
-Z opens fire from internal defenses on the Galactors.
-
- Z: You damned fools! Did you think I wouldn't figure out what you
-were planning?
- EGO: Damn you, Overlord Z!
- MECHANDOR: Scatter!
-
-There are explosions and things.
-
- MECHAN: Now, my Count!
-
-Mechandor and Egobossler reach a room with some weird machinery.
-
- Z: Egobossler, stop wasting your time! I'm leaving Earth in a few
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-minutes! I think I'll teleport to a safe place and watch the show as the
-Earth is destroyed!
- EGO (ignoring Z, to Mechan.): I see. That's Z's power generator!
-
-The world warps.
-
- Z: (laughing) Can you bear the shock of entering limbo? (2)
-
-On Gatchaspartan, Kamo on viewscreen.
-
- KAMO: Gatchaman, I've picked up Overlord Z's location!
- KEN: Where?
- KAMO: Point HO-YB 30-20. That's above the North Pole!
- KEN: The North Pole?
- JOE: Shit! Ken, Overlord Z can teleport!
- KEN: Yeah. There's no way we can reach him if he escapes to limbo.
-
-Back inside Z. Egobossler is suffering more from the imminent teleport than
-Mechandor is.
-
- MECHAN: My Count!
- EGO (strangling out) Stop the teleportation at any cost!
- MECHAN: Yes, sir!
-
-He does so, and ends up blowing a hole in Z's middle. The Gatchaspartan
-approaches the hole.
-
- JUN: There it is! There's fire coming from the middle!
- JOE: We're in luck! Go in through there!
- KEN: Ryu, full power!
-
-The Gatchaspartan crashes inside Z.
-
- Z: Damn you, Gatchaman! You're still alive!
-
-Ken comes out of the flames after the crash.
-
- KEN: Overlord Z! Overlord Z, the battle begins now!
-
-Z successfully enters limbo, with the Ninja Team aboard.
-
- NARRATOR: The antimatter asteroid turns its eerie face toward the
-Earth, and draws nearer and nearer. The Earth will be destroyed in 4 hours.
-Can the Science Ninja Team destroy Z now that they've vanished into limbo?
-And what is the meaning of the legacy from Director Nambu?
-
-Eternal Gatchaman
-
- Z: You've done nothing but ensure your own death by coming here,
-Gatchaman. Before I destroy the Earth, I'll eliminate you.
-
-Z launches remote drones to take Ken out. Ken fights them, and calls to the
-rest of the team, who are still unconscious in the Gatchaspartan.
-
- KEN: Jun! Can you hear me? Jun! Joe! Answer! Ryu! Jimpei! Can
-anyone hear me? Can you hear me, Jun?
- JUN: Ken!
- KEN: Jun, is that you? Find out where Z's central nervous system is!
- JUN: I can't find the exact place, but I'm sure it's in the upper
-part somewhere, deeper in.
- KEN: All right! Everyone, take the G-mecha and split up! We'll
-smash our way to the upper part!
- JOE: Got it, Ken. Ryu, open G-1's hatch.
- RYU: Roger! (Everyone ends up in their own little sections.)
-Split-up preparations complete!
- KEN: Gatchaspartan, split up! (The pieces split up and fly off.)
-Listen. Destroy the front cannon and enter from there! Find the central
-nervous system and the brain! Fire missiles!
-
-There is an explosion, and they all go spinning off in different directions.
-
- NARR: In 23 minutes and 27 seconds the Earth will be destroyed.
-The Gatchaman team have entered Z's body to try to find the central nervous
-system, so they can stop the antimatter asteroid from approaching and
-destroying Earth, but they have all been transported on Z's carrier wave to
-limbo.
-
-Mechandor is supporting Egobossler.
-
- MECHAN: My Count!
- EGO (in pain): I'm sorry, Mechandor.
- MECHAN: My Count, we are the leaders of the Family. We have to
-destroy Z!
- EGO: I refuse to die like this. Find Z's brain-- (he collapses)
- MECHAN: My Count!
- EGO: I'll destroy it with my own hands!
-
-They stagger toward a pulsating tunnel. A bright light shines out at them,
-and disks of light come shooting out at them.
-
- MECHAN: Watch out! Get behind me!
-
-Mechandor cries out in agony as the light hits him.
-
- EGO: Mechandor!
-
-He gets away from Mechandor, and watches in horror as his assistant's body
-is vaporized.
-
- EGO: No, Overlord Z. I won't do what you want me to-- I'm not your
-toy! I'm going to rip out your throat! Come on out!
-
-He slices the tunnel open with his sword. Z's brain is being moved out of
-harm's way.
-
- Z: Egobossler, if you really want to meet me so badly, I can
-oblige you.
-
-Egobossler is flung on a beam of light into a room. Strands of what look
-like flesh separate him from Z's brain.
-
- Z: (laughing) Welcome, Egobossler!
- EGO: It can't be... this is what you truly are, Overlord Z? Such a
-tiny thing!
- Z: That's right. All I needed to lead you and your humans around
-by the nose was the illusion I generated. You're a fool, Egobossler!
-
-Glowing stuff attacks Egobossler, and Z laughs. But Ego's lightsaber glows,
-and the stuff is blown away.
-
- EGO: You can't have it! I'll never let you take the Earth!
-
-He slices everything in sight, apparently damaging Z, but not fatally.
-
- Z: Damn you, Egobossler!
-
-Z moves to a safer place, and sucks Ego's sword up into the air. Then he
-lets it fall, where it stabs Egobossler. He staggers to his feet, and
-reaches for the air.
-
- EGO: Glory... The glory is mine! Aagh-- It's MINE!
-
-Ego hallucinates his men, chanting "Hail Egobossler!" He smiles, then
-gasps, and dies, still standing, his shirt ripped open and a locket visible
-against his chest. Elsewhere, Ken recovers consciousness.
-
- KEN: Where am I?
-
-In various extradimensional pockets, the Science Ninja Team are freaking out.
-
- JOE: What the-- where the hell are we??
- JUN: Ken! Ken, where are you?
-
-Back where Ken stands by the crashed G-1 mecha, Z laughs.
-
- Z: Gatchaman, no matter what you do, you cannot change the course
-of the antimatter asteroid. The Earth will be destroyed in 13 minutes, 50
-seconds.
- KEN: Shut up, Z! The battle isn't over yet!
- Z: You stupid ass. What can you do in 13 minutes? The battle is
-*over*, Ninja Team.
- KEN: We're going to find your brain, and then we'll destroy you!
- Z: Fool!
-
-Z blasts Ken, but Ken flings the Gatchafencer along the path of the blast,
-and it damages Z badly, causing its voice to slow. Z retreats to a more
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-safe position, and Ken collapses.
-
- Z: Damn you, Gatchaman!
-
-In the weird dimensions, apparently things have gotten even weirder.
-
- RYU: What's going on?
- JOE: I don't know. But it looks like something bad just happened
-to Z. Let's get into the G-mecha!
-
-Suddenly, all four of them are flung to rejoin Ken. They materialize in the
-relatively normal area he's in. (3)
-
- KEN: Joe!
- JOE: Ken!
- KEN: Are you all all right?
- JOE: Yeah, fine.
- KEN: What's more important is that Z's brain is nearby.
-
-Joe looks off, listening to a heartbeat and the sound of breathing, and is
-almost sick. (4)
-
- KEN: Joe! What's wrong?
- JOE: Can't you hear it? It's Z.
- KEN: Joe...
- JOE: It's Z. Ken, do you remember? Dr. Rafael said you couldn't
-destroy X without me. Z must be the same thing.
- JINPEI: Huh?
- JOE: I can hear him breathing. Once I get near, my black box
-should react and go off.
- KEN: So this *is* the room my Fencer hit, then.
- JOE: But how're we going to get up there?
- JINPEI: Let's use the Whirlwind Fighter!
- JOE: No, we can't. If we use the Whirlwind Fighter in our
-condition, we'll break ourselves to pieces before we ever find Z's brain.
- JINPEI (starting to lose it) So-- so what should we do?
- JOE: Shut up, Jinpei! I'm thinking!
- JINPEI: We've gotten all this way-- right in front of the enemy--
-and yet there's nothing we can do!
- KEN: Jinpei's right. For all that we've come so far, there's still
-nothing we can do. (takes out the pendant) Director, what can we do? The
-G-mecha are broken, and we're exhausted from the fight inside Z. We don't
-have the power to fly up there. What is there for us to do? Has God
-abandoned us?
- JOE: Ken, the G-2 mech might still be working.
- KEN: Really? Okay, Joe! Carry the four of us on your mecha and
-drive up the wall so we can get into the central nervous system! Can you do
-it?
- JOE: I can try.
- KEN: Jun, Ryu, Jinpei: I've forced you to fight so long, so hard.
-But this is the end of it. No matter what-- even if you're on the edge of
-the abyss of despair-- don't think the word "defeat". If you think of it,
-we'll lose. Even if just one of us thinks it!
- JINPEI: Your words make sense as usual, aniki. We won't die,
-right? We're not going to die... (starts to cry)
- JUN: Jinpei...
- KEN: Let's go!
-
-They drive to Z's central nervous system. Jun finds Egobossler's dead body
-and gasps.
-
- JOE: What's wrong? (sees the body) Egobossler! So you were
-fighting this battle, too...
-
-Ken opens the locket, and sees the picture of Egobossler's mother. He
-closes it again.
-
- KEN: So Egobossler was human after all. Like us. (5)
- Z: Welcome to my central nervous system.
- KEN: Z!
- Z: You've done very well so far. But can you find me? There are 2
-minutes and 37 seconds left.
-
-Joe targets in on Z's brain.
-
- JOE: There it is!
-
-He runs to it, smashes through the protective capsule, and starts manually
-tugging Z out.
-
- KEN: Joe, what're you doing?
- JOE: I feel his mind inside this hood barrier! Ken, destroy this
-with your Fencer before my black box reaction peaks!
- KEN: Right!
-
-Ken runs to do it, but an energy field throws him and everybody but Joe
-into the walls. Joe successfully manages to smash the glass around Z's
-brain, and the field dies. Joe collapses.
-
- JOE: Ken... I leave it... to you..
- KEN: That's it? That's what Z really is?
- Z: You've destroyed so many of my plans, Gatchaman, but it seems
-this last one escapes you! The Earth will be destroyed in 1 minute, 30
-seconds!
- KEN: Shit!
-
-Back on Earth.
-
- TECH: The antimatter asteroid will reach the critical phase in 1
-minute, 23 seconds! 22! 21!
- KAMO: Gatchaman!
- NARRATOR: A strange quiet lies over the Earth now. In one minute,
-it will be destroyed.
-
-Back in Z.
-
- KEN: I-- I will protect the Earth! (sees Z) This-- this little
-thing's what's bothered us so long-- (brings down the Fencer) Get out of
-here! Get out of this universe!
-
-He slices Z in half. There is a deafening scream, and Z's body teleports
-into space. Back on Earth.
-
- TECH: The movement of the antimatter asteroid has stopped!
- KAMO: What?
- TECH: It stopped at point 3542!
-
-Aboard Z's body, there are explosions. Ken collapses, and sees Nambu appear
-in a limbo of blue.
-
- NAMBU: Ken!
- KEN: Director!
- NAMBU: {Ken, destroying Overlord Z was never your only duty. You
-must live! Live, and see the Earth return to normal. This is what I ask of
-you: that you live and return to Earth. Stand up and walk, Gatchaman! You
-are the Phoenix! You are immortal! Immortal!}
- KEN: Director! *Director! *
-
-In the real world, he is holding the pendant. He gasps for breath, and his
-eyes glaze over, as he goes limp and the pendant falls from his hands. It
-glows and rises into the air, summoning all the G-mecha to join it. There
-are explosions everywhere, and brilliant glowing light from the uniting
-mecha, and Ken opens his eyes.
- Outside, as Z's body destroys itself, the Phoenix flies from the
-body, toward Earth.
-
-Back on Earth.
-
- TECH: The antimatter asteroid is receding!
- TECH 2: It looks like Z was manipulating it.
-
-Outside Earth's orbit, its magnetic field fails, and it blows up. What's
-left continues to recede.
-
- KAMO: It's vanished... But them! What about the Ninja Team?
- TECH: We don't know. But just before the antimatter asteroid
-exploded, a large object seems to have flown out of Z and headed for Earth.
- KAMO: I see. Thank you.
-
-He goes outside and looks at the sky. The UN man follows.
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- UN MAN: I guess-- the Science Ninja Team-- Gatchaman-- they're
-probably dead, right? And if they are, we're the ones who killed them-- who
-killed Gatchaman, at least. He was so exhausted, and we sent him out to
-fight... But we couldn't stop the destruction of his cells. And then we
-forced him to keep fighting.
- KAMO: Gatchaman-- and the Science Ninja Team-- they're alive. I
-know it. No matter what, they could survive.
- NARR: The star of evil that threatened the Earth, the antimatter
-asteroid, exploded at the critical stage and took Z with it. The core has
-become a rogue star, floating in space forever. Now a phoenix flies,
-believing in Earth's future. Fly, phoenix warriors! Fly, eternal Gatchaman!
-
-I have none of my usual somewhat irreverent comments on continuity and
-scientific glitches to make-- not because they're not there, but because
-these two episodes are such a powerful emotional experience that to nitpick
-would cheapen it. However, I do have a few little things to clear up, here
-and there.
- 1. Brackets {} indicate that nobody's mouth is moving-- or in
-other words, this is a telepathic conversation. And people don't believe me
-when I say the Gatchamen have psi.
- 2. "Limbo" is my translation of "akukan", literally subspace. It's
-the dimension between dimensions, where you go when you teleport, and it
-apparently messes with the human brain.
- 3. I think that where they were before that, was they were still
-in limbo. Z had taken its own central nervous system out of limbo, but left
-most of the Ninja Team in it. Now we know how Z can keep those huge mechs
-inside himself-- he generates pocket dimensions within him. Although it
-looked as if they were falling when they left the weird dimensions, when
-they materialized it was on the floor standing upright, making me believe
-that a lot of what you see in these alternate dimensions isn't actually
-happening.
- 4. Obviously Z neither breathes nor has a heart. Joe's mind is
-probably interpreting the life signs he senses in human terms so he can
-understand them.
- 5. Ken means "human" in the traditional sense of "he had human
-feelings", not as a contrast to Berg Katse and Gel Sadra, who were
-supposedly biologically not human.
- General note: Mari says that this ending leaves no doubt in *her*
-mind, at least (actually, what she said was, "I'm Japanese, so I know.")
-that they are alive. Even if Ken did die, he came back to life because of
-the pendant. Lines like "You are immortal" do tend to bear her theory out--
-at no point does it state that they're dead, and it states several times
-that they can't be dead. Of course, in what *form* they're not dead can
-still be debated.
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Posted by amyltrer on 04-05-2008 at 17:42:
This was the #cough# grand#cough# finale of Fighter! 
I'd really stuck that sword in Sosai.... if it even had one!
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Posted by amyltrer on 04-05-2008 at 17:45:
Btw, Rory there's Daniela's site who has some other eps of Fighter tranlslated in English:
Here is: Click!!!
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Posted by Rory on 04-05-2008 at 21:00:
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Yes, it really helps a lot. I hope you don't mind if I ask you another question.
Where did the final battle with Sosai Z take place exactly? Also, since you're obviously the GM expert, would you say that Utoland is the AU version of Japan?
I need to have the settings right...and this is just for the Prologue and Chap. 1, would you believe!
Thanks so much for the information, James!
Sincerely,
Rory
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PS Oh and HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TOO! Sorry. Multitasking at work right now and my brain is fried!
Posted by Rory on 04-05-2008 at 21:21:
Thank You, James, Amyl! And About the Story
Thank you very much for the info, James and Amy! No, it's not a Gatch F fic. It's actually going to be a mammoth sequel to events that took place in Gatch F. Yes, Ego is going to be in it, but I am very, very sure you're NOT going to like what I do to him in the story. I'm pretty sure even the Swannies would want to kill me for what I'm going to do to Jun also.
The only things I could say for certain about this story is that:
1) The title of the story is "Saving Icarus".
2) The Prologue and Chapter 1 is actually inspired by a fanart by Phantom.G. The scene depicted in this fanart will actually be in these first two chapters. I zipped it up for everyone to see.
3) It's probably going to be around 10-20 chapters long.
4) It's going to be a crossover with Osamu Tezuka's "Black Jack", but I'll be putting the Black Jack characters in the universe of Gatch. For the story, I would need a doctor for Ken, and Black Jack is the only doctor character I know who could pull off the surgeries that would be done on both Ken and Joe.
5) Sosai Z is *still* alive.
6) All of the major baddies from the 3 Gatch series will be in this story. I'm not saying how they look.
7) It's SLASH, so I'm pretty sure majority of peeps would not be reading it. He he he.
Now, I go back to transcribing my interview.
Sincerely,
Rory
Posted by Springie on 04-05-2008 at 22:27:
Oh no....don't tell me what you are going to do to the Swannie...EEK! *Springie covers her eyes and ears*
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Nope, I'm not telling anyone for the very simple reason that I don't want to get killed by furious Swans. And I mean it!
Posted by tatsunokofan on 05-05-2008 at 02:35:
Hi all!
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We are not shown where the final battle going on inside of Governor Z is taking place. After Z teleports away at the end of Gatchaman Fighter #47, we only see what's happening from inside of him, not where he's located at that time. Only after he's killed are we shown a location, when he reappears in space above the Earth.
I'd say that Utoland is definitely not Japan, since Japan itself does exist (In Gatchaman #3, the Captain of the doomed airliner comments on getting back to Japan). Actually, Utoland appears to be a city, not a country. Exactly what country that city is in is a mystery, except that it can't be Ameris (The first time the Ninja Team was in Ameris was in Gatchaman #24, so obviously that is not the country in which they live). I know this doesn't help much, but the simple truth is that there are a lot of things that were never covered in the series, and the exact location of Utoland is one of them.
James
Posted by amyltrer on 05-05-2008 at 07:08:
RE: Thank You, James, Amyl! And About the Story
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That's good news, Rory! Wanna bet I won't like what happens to Ego? You might loose.
He,he, he all 3 of them? That's even better! And Sosai on top!
But have I read well? Surgery to the Eagle and Condors? Unless is a sex-change surgery (Swannies will be very mad in that case)
Honestly, what will you do to Ego?
Torture? Bondage? Worse things? Damn, I gotta get the smut out of my brain!
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I don't know why I had the feeling Utoland would be close to San Francisco!
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