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Posted by Firebird on 16-09-2007 at 17:49:
Red Impulse/Col Cronus
Whatever you want to call him I am after info on him for something I am currently writing.
I am not trying to be entirely cannon but I do want to try to understand his character a little more.
Can anyone help?
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 16-09-2007 at 17:54:
What specifically do you want to know, FB?
Personally, I hate RI and that leaks over to Cronus for me. I think RI's a terrible father who has to beat up on his son to feel good about himself. Even when Ken was 4, he was drowning him in the lake. Ugh.
SJ, OTOH, seems to like Cronus a lot and writes him nicely into her fics. Perhaps she could give you a more positive viewpoint (which, I suspect, is what you were looking for).
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Posted by Firebird on 16-09-2007 at 18:07:
To be honest more Cronus than his Gatch incarnation.
Just want to ensure I have the right feel for him before writing something in a fic.
Cant be more specific otherwise I will give away whats coming 
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 16-09-2007 at 18:24:
Well honestly, I've seen his character painted in different ways. In BOTP there isn't much disclosed about him, so I think you could go whichever way you want. The only consistency is the way he left his family and pretended to be dead to protect them while he worked undercover.
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Posted by SJ_SwanJun on 16-09-2007 at 22:09:
Ahhh Cronus - How I do love him muchly ...
I'm trying to think of who he compares to, but really can't quite find anyone off hand.
The comics did a good job of CC. He was less of a prick than RI, probably more like .... um ... Gosh so hard to explain when I'm on the tail-end of the worst hang over of my life ...
If it can hang until tomorrow when I'm more lucid and able to type ... I'll give you something a little better to play with ...
SJ
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Posted by Firebird on 17-09-2007 at 09:23:
No problem SJ. I can probably find some poems to do. I am sure people at the clubhouse will wait for the next instalment. 
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 17-09-2007 at 14:09:
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No! No we won't!
Oh, wait... I guess we don't have any choice, do we?
Darn.
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Posted by clouddancer on 17-09-2007 at 15:20:
I will wait if you promise us more poems. 
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Posted by Firebird on 17-09-2007 at 17:05:
Will try put another poem up and write some more on the fic that sound fair?
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 17-09-2007 at 17:44:
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I suppose.... sigh....
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Posted by Firebird on 18-09-2007 at 13:29:
lol TJ you are incorrigable
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 18-09-2007 at 13:34:
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Not necessarily. It's more that I have a one track mind...
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Posted by Firebird on 18-09-2007 at 13:39:
I thought you had a two track mind TJ
Smut (of any kind)
Eagle and Swan
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 18-09-2007 at 14:00:
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Well, that's all the same thing, now, isn't it?
(Pssst.... don't forget Condor and Swan... also falls under smut)
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Posted by amyltrer on 19-09-2007 at 04:27:
Ahhh, the Red Impulse..... first time I saw them, at the end of ER, when Ken was undergoing canker treatment I thougght he was Santa 
It took me a while to figure out he was Ken's father, thanks for the fanfics
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 19-09-2007 at 08:56:
I can tell you heaps about Red Impulse, but I forget the relationship Cronus had with Mark...ahhh I have not seen BOTP in a while...
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Posted by Firebird on 19-09-2007 at 12:11:
Ebony at this stage trust me anything will do. Ive gone through BOTP and they dont really portray much by way of a relationship that I can pick up on.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 20-09-2007 at 12:46:
Well he left his family when Ken was four years old, he faked his death in a plane crash.
Ken never really believed that he was dead though and has looked for his signs that his father was still alive.
Character;
He was a very militant man, who treated Ken like a soldier . So his relationship with Ken was not affectionate. He disaplined Ken like a he would a subordinate, not a as a loving father would a son.
Though it did affect him at the time that he did it, I think he felt he needed to toughen Ken because his son was a fighter and Gatchaman.
You know.."Wake up to yourself boy, go find her and stop mopping around here feeling sorry for yourself, get some balls and get back to work." kinda thing(not politically correct, but then Gatch was not a politically correct show...1971 before someone introduced that way of thinking.)
Although Ken at times did lash out in a similar way with the team when it came to disapline, he tended to have more compassion than his father, and a more affectionate side to his personality,It is less likley that Ken would abandon his family like his father did.
Although Red Impulse showed signs of loving his only child through his commitment to his mission, and sacrific of his own life.
When it came down to it RI in ways had a lot of regret at leaving his wife and son to go on this mission, but to him it was his way of protecting them.
Red Impulse was not alone but he was the leader of a squadron Masaki and Oniishi were his two other pilots that ran missions with him. Nothing was know about them personally, or their previous lives, they were a mystery.
He ran his secret base from an island (It was planet Riga on BOTP)the team went on a training mission there.
It was indicated that he may have lived for a time with his family in another country(I can't remember the name off hand), or they went on vacation there.
Ken was familiar with the place on a mission and it was were his father found out about the Van Allen belt project that Galcator was working on. His father did a sucide run with the V-2 rocket.
Anyway that is off the cuff and my interpretation, and I can get better info for you later if you want more...I have to go to bed now...
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 20-09-2007 at 13:03:
The country was Hontworl. The same country was used as the 'base' for Galactor in the OAVs. (Solaris impersonated their leader and withdrew from the UN, forming his own military alliance).
Oniishi (I believe) was dumb, because Galactor had tortured him when he was younger and cut out his tongue.
Oh yeah, you forgot RI's penchant for looking like Ricardo Montalban when off duty!
Here's another tidbit... in BOTP there's a scene where Mark is at a grave and he says 'brother'... implying that he had a brother who died. They never follow up on this. Of course, it's actually Ken at RI's grave, but since in BOTP Cronus didn't die in the Van Allen Belt missile (he was able to eject in time), they couldn't use that. In BOTP Cronus died off camera, and Zoltar mocked Mark with it during an encounter late in the series. Mark was shocked to hear about it.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 21-09-2007 at 08:58:
mmm I had thought of that after about Onishii, but then I was tired when I wrote that last night, and didn't have notes to refer to...
I did forget the name of the country that he my have "lived" in as a child with his parents...I was going to look that up in an ep when I do my ficcie for the end of fighter...so much information to remember...I have more though about him...just ran out of time to type it up!
I had thoughts on doing my own character profiles of all of them, and putting together info as I found it about then, names of places etc, just so I would have it on hand..Sigh!
I remember Mark having a brother in BOTP...
But it is fun to watch an EP just to find out about it!
Ricardo Montalbant....Don't know him, that's why I didn't think of him...hehehehe
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